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shaneo69 12-26-2009 12:20 PM

Former Chief Lake Dawson the new Browns GM?
 
Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren May Be Targeting Packers Front Office
by Daniel Wolf
December 25, 2009

With Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner officially announcing his newest holiday gift the week after Christmas in president Mike Holmgren's hiring, many reporters and writers have been speculating what moves Holmgren will make once in office.

The obvious moves will be paying Josh Cribbs more money and deciding on what to do at the quarterback position and with head coach Eric Mangini, but what has not been talked about is what Holmgren will do with the vacant general manager position in the front office.

Hard-core Browns fan speculate that their beloved Bernie Kosar will take the role and get trained at the same time, but in reality, that will probably not happen because Kosar is more of a consultant to Lerner than anything else.

Holmgren may look to one of his former teams in the Green Bay Packers where he still has several ties within their front office.

Two guys who Holmgren may consider for the Browns' general manager could be one of the Packers' two Co-Directors of Football Operations, John Schneider and Reggie McKenzie.

Another name may be Lake Dawson, who was with Holmgren in Seattle and now is the head of pro personnel for the Titans.

Schneider has a history with Holmgren going back to 1992 when both were with the Packers. He was an intern for former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, but quickly moved up the ranks.

His greatest skill is Schneider's extensive knowledge of professional and college sports personnel. He was also in charge of the NFL personnel department as vice president of personnel in Washington when Marty Schottenheimer was at the helm.

McKenzie does not have much history with Holmgren, but will also be considered since he was head of pro personnel for the Packers since 1997, until his recent promotion to Co-Director of Football Operations.

McKenzie work for both former general manager Wolf and current general manager Ted Thompson both of whom still have relationships with Holmgren.

Dawson is more of a dark horse since he is younger than the other men (37), but he has shot up through the ranks rather quickly and he was Holmgren's director of personnel in Seattle in 1999.

The Packers may also lose more of their scouting department than they may want since some of their scouts may want to take a promotion to come to the Cleveland to build up the scouting and personnel departments for the Browns.

Many speculations and no one really knows what Holmgren is planning, but it will make for some exciting articles and news in the next several months.

Stewie 12-26-2009 12:26 PM

I've heard his name mentioned for other high level jobs, so it's not a surprise.

Rain Man 12-26-2009 12:55 PM

Good for him. I had no idea he was doing this.

I remember when he was a rookie, he took a reverse and went for a long touchdown (may have been preseason), and I had high hopes for him. Sadly, that's pretty much my only memory of Lake Dawson.

Mojo Jojo 12-26-2009 01:01 PM

John Schneider...former Chiefs personnel guy. The Packers front office has several former Chiefs/Carl guys.

WilliamTheIrish 12-26-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6378948)
Good for him. I had no idea he was doing this.

I remember when he was a rookie, he took a reverse and went for a long touchdown (may have been preseason), and I had high hopes for him. Sadly, that's pretty much my only memory of Lake Dawson.

The enduring memory I have is Dawson almost making a spectacular catch of a Rich Gannon pass in the EZ late in the 95 (Jan 96) playoff loss to the Colts. Although he did have a 20 yard catch for a TD in that game.

DaWolf 12-26-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6378959)
John Schneider...former Chiefs personnel guy. The Packers front office has several former Chiefs/Carl guys.

That's when we had some decent guys in the FO under guys like Mark Hatley...

Mr. Flopnuts 12-26-2009 02:10 PM

Lake is actually from the Seattle area, and yes it's the same guy.

Tribal Warfare 12-26-2009 02:19 PM

Lake always presented himself as a smart and articulate individual so it is no surprise that he's having success in FO realm of the business.

BossChief 12-26-2009 02:49 PM

so Lakes a fo guy and Willie Davis is one of our scouts...I wonder how long till Keith Cash ends up back in the loop.

Redrum_69 12-26-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6379083)
so Lakes a fo guy and Willie Davis is one of our scouts...I wonder how long till Keith Cash ends up back in the loop.


Tamarick Vanover and Bam Morris run a hot dog stand and your mom is their best customer. She always ends up leaving with a Haagen-Daas mustache...cept they dont serve ice cream.

Mojo Jojo 12-26-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6379043)
That's when we had some decent guys in the FO under guys like Mark Hatley...

Actually Schneider joined the Chiefs to replace Hatley when Mark went to the Bears. Schneider is a Ron Wolfe/Mike Holmgren guy.

Dallas Chief 12-26-2009 05:49 PM

Wasn't it Lake Dawson that Grbac threw incomplete to in the endzone on the last play of the '98 playoff loss versus the Donks? I remember he jumped in the air and it him in the chest and flopped to the ground incomplete. That finish is burned in my brain for eternity. Then again it could have been Rison for all I know...
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shaneo69 12-26-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas Chief (Post 6379238)
Wasn't it Lake Dawson that Grbac threw incomplete to in the endzone on the last play of the '98 playoff loss versus the Donks? I remember he jumped in the air and it him in the chest and flopped to the ground incomplete. That finish is burned in my brain for eternity. Then again it could have been Rison for all I know...
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Yeah, I thought it was Lake that was the intended receiver on the last pass by Grbac, but WilliamtheIrish thought it was the '96 game against the Colts.

milkman 12-26-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6378959)
John Schneider...former Chiefs personnel guy. The Packers front office has several former Chiefs/Carl guys.

The Duke of Hazard?

Mojo Jojo 12-26-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6379416)
The Duke of Hazard?

And want to be music star...(Also see David Soul)


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