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petegz28 10-10-2010 07:25 PM

The Myths of Why We Shouldn't Play Croyle..
 
Myth #1: He will just get hurt.

If that's the case WTF is he our #2 then? If Cassel gets hurt he is going in, so what then?

Myth #2: He is 0-9 as a starter so he can't do the job.

What ****ing job? Hand the ball off? What is it that Cassel does that makes some think Brodie can't do the same if not better?

Nevermind that 8 of Croyle's losses came behind one of the worst offensive lines in Chiefs history with absolutely 0 pass protection and 0 running game.

The 1 game Brodie started under Haley he did ok in until late. I firmly believe had he had more time with the starters the 4 TD's he overthrew against Baltimore would have turned out different

Myth #3: He isn't the long term answer.

I agree, but neither is ****ing Cassel. As much as I like what we are doing right now is actually not a bad time to change QB's.



When it comes down to it you have to look at things this year. Cassel has taken 2 sacks in 4 games. Meaning the O-line is much better in protection and we have a great running game to help him. Croyle, while not a long term answer, can actually throw the ****ing ball with some zip on it for more than 5 yards.

DeezNutz 10-10-2010 07:26 PM

Why are you worried about QB play, pete?

We have a solid D and run game, and these are more important.

Pablo 10-10-2010 07:27 PM

Trade Bowe and a bag of Arthur Bryant's to Miami for Thigpen.

BRING BACK HOPE.

petegz28 10-10-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7078351)
Why are you worried about QB play, pete?

We have a solid D and run game, and these are more important.

I would like at least average QB play. I think that is just a minimum on any team. With our defense and running game an average QB would suffice for the time being.

Marcellus 10-10-2010 07:27 PM

Croyle being 0-9 as a starter isn't a myth.

How about this, the guy has never been impressive. He isn't accurate he isn't mobile. I say that as a person who rooted like hell for him after we drafted him.

He throws the ball hard. That's all he has got.


At this point I don't give a shit, start him but he is nothing special.

Bugeater 10-10-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 7078348)
Myth #1: He will just get hurt.

If that's the case WTF is he our #2 then? If Cassel gets hurt he is going in, so what then?

Because Brodie coming and playing a game or two is completely different from benching Cassel and making him a starter. He'll get hurt eventually, then we will be back to where we started and have no viable backup. It simply won't accomplish anything.

Bane 10-10-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 7078356)
Trade Bowe and a bag of Arthur Bryant's to Miami for Thigpen.

BRING BACK HOPE.

ROFL

petegz28 10-10-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7078359)
Croyle being 0-9 as a starter isn't a myth.

How about this, the guy has never been impressive. He isn't accurate he isn't mobile. I say that as a person who rooted like hell for him after we drafted him.

He throws the ball hard. That's all he has got.


At this point I don't give a shit, start him but he is nothing special.

I never said he was "special". But considering the alternative he doesn't look so bad if you ask me.

Deberg_1990 10-10-2010 07:29 PM

we have 3 backup QB's on our team...It doesnt matter who starts and Cassel has proven he can stay healthy.

DeezNutz 10-10-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 7078357)
I would like at least average QB play. I think that is just a minimum on any team. With our defense and running game an average QB would suffice for the time being.

Define "suffice"? It's entirely possible that we're going to take our current sack of shit to the post season. Could we win it all with "average"?

DaFace 10-10-2010 07:30 PM

I actually would love to see Croyle get a chance. When he's tried before, we've had an offensive line that was about as effective as a slight breeze. I'd love to see what he could do when he's not getting slammed to the ground every other play.

Pablo 10-10-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7078359)
Croyle being 0-9 as a starter isn't a myth.

How about this, the guy has never been impressive. He isn't accurate he isn't mobile. I say that as a person who rooted like hell for him after we drafted him.

He throws the ball hard. That's all he has got.


At this point I don't give a shit, start him but he is nothing special.

Sounds an awful lot like our #1 QB, except for the whole throwing the ball hard thing.

suds79 10-10-2010 07:31 PM

Fact #1: Matt Cassel is Scott Pioli's guy... At least for this year.

DeezNutz 10-10-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7078372)
I actually would love to see Croyle get a chance. When he's tried before, we've had an offensive line that was about as effective as a slight breeze. I'd love to see what he could do when he's not getting slammed to the ground every other play.

Like in preseason, when he was hurt, again?

He's more talented than Cassel, for sure, but I don't think Croyle is an NFL player, as I've said numerous times.

petegz28 10-10-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7078371)
Define "suffice"? It's entirely possible that we're going to take our current sack of shit to the post season. Could we win it all with "average"?

If the defense and running game continue as they have then I think "average" would give us a better shot than Cassel.


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