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DaFace 12-11-2010 09:47 AM

McDaniels vs Herm: Who was worse for their team?
 
Simple question, but I think the realization of my own take on it was somewhat surprising when I thought of it. Just curious to know how the masses feel.

LaChapelle 12-11-2010 09:50 AM

Herm was good for the Chiefs in the long run
going young - cutting deadwood - 1 pretty good draft
McCymbalsmonkey needs Tebow to shine like the sun for Denver

DaFace 12-11-2010 09:51 AM

My guess is that this poll will be a landslide, but I guess I'd just never thought about it until now. Even though we all despise Herm, he came into the team in a really rough position and, though we didn't make much progress, he didn't really "hurt" the team so much as delay its development. We also pulled a handful of decent players out of his tenure, though one could argue we had our fair share of clunkers as well.

McDaniels, on the other hand, came into the team when it was really in pretty decent shape. But in two years, he managed to pretty much dismantle all of the strengths the team had and waste numerous draft picks in the process. It's really pretty impressive when you think about it.

In some ways, it's just oddly comforting to realize that, no matter how bad Herm was, the Broncos had it worse.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-11-2010 09:54 AM

Her m was just a bad coach. McDaniels got rid of every piece of the puzzle that made them a winner and then got caught cheating. His drafts were hilarity. Herm could draft. McDaniels will be the runaway winner in this poll. God I wish they hadn't fired him.

cabletech94 12-11-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7246390)
Her m was just a bad coach. McDaniels got rid of every piece of the puzzle that made them a winner and then got caught cheating. His drafts were hilarity. Herm could draft. McDaniels will be the runaway winner in this poll. God I wish they hadn't fired him.

agreed. i was hoping mcfistpump would last 4-6 years :deevee:.

Farzin 12-11-2010 09:59 AM

McDaniels got rid of the good players that Shanahan had.

Herm didn't do that to Vermeil's players in his first offseason. On top of that, he made the playoffs, even though he had the talent Vermeil formed. But hey, McDaniels decided to dish out Shanahan's talented players rather than trying to make the playoffs.

McDaniels gets the vote for this poll.

LaChapelle 12-11-2010 10:00 AM

You can make an argument that Herm got Peterson out of town a year early
that's win all over it even if Pioli turns out to be meh

JD10367 12-11-2010 10:03 AM

Squirmin' Herman at least drafted a few good players. McEmbryo, IMO, might turn out to be a solid coach eventually but, in the short term, he dumped the Broncos' good players and coaches and left them holding a bag of flaming shit.

Rausch 12-11-2010 10:04 AM

Herm Edwards tore down a team and built a foundation of talent through the draft. A foundation he had no clue how to coach, mentor, lead, or motivate.

McDaniels tore down a foundation, traded it away, attempted to rebuild a team, and managed to build a dangerous passing game.

The mess that Herm left (undercoached and undeveloped talent) is much less than the mess that McD left (overall lack of talent.)

Scorp 12-11-2010 10:05 AM

All these questions are making me flustrated.

Rausch 12-11-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorp (Post 7246405)
All these questions are making me flustrated.

Go out back, sweep the corners of your patio, and you'll feel much better and more complete as a person when yer' done...

Scorp 12-11-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7246406)
Go out back, sweep the corners of your patio, and you'll feel much better and more complete as a person when yer' done...

That is arena league!

tmax63 12-11-2010 10:09 AM

Chiefs didn't have alot of good players to get rid off. McDummy not only didn't bring in any good players but got rid of the good ones they had. Although with some of the characters/head cases like ****ler and Marshall, I'm not sure they would stayed around anyway.

NaptownChief 12-11-2010 10:58 AM

I would say Squirm Edwards was worse because the Donks were smart enough to only let McDaniels do a season and a half worth of damage.

Bane 12-11-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief (Post 7246438)
I would say Squirm Edwards was worse because the Donks were smart enough to only let McDaniels do a season and a half worth of damage.

Yeah but the damage McDipshit unleashed on the Donks will be hard to overcome anytime soon.


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