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Skyy God 01-19-2011 03:45 PM

Your latest police state update (with video)
 
My favorite part: the cop yelling for the perp to get on the ground after being shot 3 times.

I like their chances on a wrongful death suit.

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http://www.standard.net/topics/drugs...shooting-death

teedubya 01-19-2011 03:48 PM

That is insane.

RockChalk 01-19-2011 03:53 PM

:popcorn:

ToxSocks 01-19-2011 03:57 PM

Not really sure what to think about that. Looked uneccesary( I know I cant spell worth a shit) to me though.

On the other hand, he shouldn't be holding a golf club at them like he's about to swing for the fences.

jiveturkey 01-19-2011 03:58 PM

Step 1 - knock loudly
Step 2 - kick in the door
Step 3 - shoot every living thing in site
Step 4 - ask questions

Chiefnj2 01-19-2011 04:01 PM

6 seconds from the kick in of the door to the shots being fired. The guy was probably dead asleep, grabbed the first thing next to the nightstand and was trying to process what the heck was going on when the bullets hit him.

RockChalk 01-19-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7369113)
Not really sure what to think about that. Looked uneccesary( I know I cant spell worth a shit) to me though.

On the other hand, he shouldn't be holding a golf club at them like he's about to swing for the fences.

My take is that we really have no clue what that officer had going through his head or what his initial reaction was when the lights popped on. I suppose given his actions, the officer was startled, felt threatened and reacted with shots. Had he reacted 5 seconds slower, he might have not shot the guy and this wouldn't be a story. But he (the officer) also might have been shot and killed by hesitating and the only reporting would have been a small blurb in the local Utah news.

Chiefnj2 01-19-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7369131)
My take is that we really have no clue what that officer had going through his head or what his initial reaction was when the lights popped on. I suppose given his actions, the officer was startled, felt threatened and reacted with shots. Had he reacted 5 seconds slower, he might have not shot the guy and this wouldn't be a story. But he (the officer) also might have been shot and killed by hesitating and the only reporting would have been a small blurb in the local Utah news.

If you can't tell a gun from a golf club, maybe you shouldn't be a cop.

Skyy God 01-19-2011 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7369113)
Not really sure what to think about that. Looked uneccesary( I know I cant spell worth a shit) to me though.

On the other hand, he shouldn't be holding a golf club at them like he's about to swing for the fences.

Under the right circumstances, a golf club can be a deadly weapon.

In that scenario, however, given the distance between the officers and the perp and their protection (riot shield, flack jackets, helmets), the threat of death or serious bodily injury seems unlikely.

RockChalk 01-19-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7369134)
If you can't tell a gun from a golf club, maybe you shouldn't be a cop.

Like I said, we don't know exactly what the cop saw or what was in his mind. The lights popped on and the victim was standing less than 10 feet from the first officer, so it's not unrealistic to think the officer saw something other than a golf club.

Chiefnj2 01-19-2011 04:07 PM

Well, they found a small personal amount of pot and meth on the guy, so I guess it was all worth it in the end.

jd1020 01-19-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7369131)
My take is that we really have no clue what that officer had going through his head or what his initial reaction was when the lights popped on. I suppose given his actions, the officer was startled, felt threatened and reacted with shots. Had he reacted 5 seconds slower, he might have not shot the guy and this wouldn't be a story. But he (the officer) also might have been shot and killed by hesitating and the only reporting would have been a small blurb in the local Utah news.

My take, unlike the last police shooting posted here, is that this guy was never given a chance to follow directions.

"POLICE! SEARCH WARRANT!"

Bang, bang, bang.

"GET ON THE GROUND!"

Skyy God 01-19-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7369147)
Well, they found a small personal amount of pot and meth on the guy, so I guess it was all worth it in the end.

Drug war FTW!

RockChalk 01-19-2011 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7369147)
Well, they found a small personal amount of pot and meth on the guy, so I guess it was all worth it in the end.

At the very least, the person in charge of the case (I believe it is the Sgt who fired the shots) should be suspended/punished for leading an unnecessary raid. After all, he took a man's life based on bad information.

jd1020 01-19-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7369158)
At the very least, the person in charge of the case (I believe it is the Sgt who fired the shots) should be suspended/punished for leading an unnecessary raid. After all, he took a man's life based on bad information.

That guys gun and badge should be stripped, at the very least.


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