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pr_capone 08-18-2011 11:13 PM

This hit is illegal? Foster v Ocho
 
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I may be wrong but it looks like Foster lit him up square in the chest well after Ocho had caught the ball.

I understand protecting a WR with this defenseless receiver rule but this looks clean. Does the NFL expect defenders to concede the catch? If so, prepare for the NFL equivalent of a soccer flop, basketball's jumping into the defender to draw a foul, and baseball's acting as if hit by pitch.

/not my own video

Kraus 08-18-2011 11:14 PM

Looked clean to me. He was trying to separate the ball from the receiver. No malicious intent behind it.

Bewbies 08-18-2011 11:19 PM

Elbow to the face. Yes, that's illegal.

Al Bundy 08-18-2011 11:22 PM

Clean hit. No doubt about it.

nstygma 08-18-2011 11:30 PM

"receiver who has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner even if both feet are on the ground is considered defenseless."

he fits this description so the call is correct

-King- 08-18-2011 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstygma (Post 7835017)
"receiver who has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner even if both feet are on the ground is considered defenseless."

he fits this description so the call is correct

**** that. He had touched the ball. Is the defender really supposed to wait until the receiver sets his feet on the ground before he can hit him?

Backwards Masking 08-18-2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstygma (Post 7835017)
"receiver who has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner even if both feet are on the ground is considered defenseless."

he fits this description so the call is correct

fuck that. this is FOOTBALL. What the hell are the DB's supposed to do, watch and wait and then hope the runner doesn't take off the other direction after the catch. Horrible. Its rule like this that allow the league to promote the teams it wants in close games.

he caught the ball, he's fair game. that's how the rule SHOULD read. for the record I've been against this BS "defenseless receiver" crap from the get go. i've seen beloved Chiefs screwed over by it multiple times over the years.

Fo the record Nstygma i'm arguing with the rule, not with you. however this is a no call when small market team's receiver gets jacked up by an East Coast powerhouse in the playoffs every time.

Bump 08-18-2011 11:44 PM

whether it was a clean hit or not, any hard hit is going to be fined nowadays

nstygma 08-18-2011 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7835026)
fuck that. this is FOOTBALL. What the hell are the DB's supposed to do, watch and wait and then hope the runner doesn't take off the other direction after the catch. Horrible. Its rule like this that allow the league to promote the teams it wants in close games.

he caught the ball, he's fair game. that's how the rule SHOULD read. for the record I've been against this BS "defenseless receiver" crap from the get go. i've seen beloved Chiefs screwed over by it multiple times over the years.

Fo the record Nstygma i'm arguing with the rule, not with you. however this is a no call when small market team's receiver gets jacked up by an East Coast powerhouse in the playoffs every time.

you're right, i don't think we would have gotten a similar call. but it appeared also that ocho didn't even have control of the ball, and was still in full extension to make the catch. i remember the days when hits like this would make a receiver think twice about putting himself in that position in the first place for fear of getting popped like that. not so much anymore i suppose.

Mama Hip Rockets 08-19-2011 12:21 AM

LET THE MEN PLAY

-King- 08-19-2011 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstygma (Post 7835035)
you're right, i don't think we would have gotten a similar call. but it appeared also that ocho didn't even have control of the ball, and was still in full extension to make the catch. i remember the days when hits like this would make a receiver think twice about putting himself in that position in the first place for fear of getting popped like that. not so much anymore i suppose.

Thats kind of the point of hitting him :spock:

D-Train6906 08-19-2011 12:36 AM

I'm on ochocincos side just because the voice i hear in this video sounds like a complete phag.

kysirsoze 08-19-2011 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 7835071)
Thats kind of the point of hitting him :spock:

OK. The point is it was an illegal hit. You can disapprove of that, but it's a fact. He clearly falls under the definition of a "defenseless receiver". What more do you need?

MagicHef 08-19-2011 12:57 AM

It sure looks like he hit him in the head. If he had just hit him in the chest, it would have been legal.

Kraus 08-19-2011 01:27 AM

It was one of those situations where the receiver is in the process of going to the ground. Hard to hit a moving target that is sinking on you. Most likely going to hit him high.


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