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durtyrute 01-10-2012 11:28 AM

We are in a GREAT position
 
I've been sitting back, going through these threads for the last couple of days reading how: if we keep Romeo that means Cassel, if we would've gotten McD that meant Cassel, Pioli has the biggest ego, Clark Hunt is cheap, 40 years means we will never get a QB and on and on and on.

When Clark officially took over what did he do? He went out and got the best candidate for the job. Whatever the price, he paid it. Then Pioli brought in Haley, who just came from the SuperBowl. (Seemed good at the time and there weren't too many complaints when we went to the playoffs) Then Pioli got us a QB and a Vet LB for a second round pick. (Again, it seemed good at the time, and Cassel did pretty good the season before and when we went to the playoffs) The first draft was a bust, but that is not on the Clarks...lol, that's Pioli and his goons right there. We bring in some cast offs and try to make them stick, most don't, (again, the goons plus Haley at work) Season is a bust and we sucked.

Next season, bring in the best OC and DC you can get, money be damned. The draft was a huge success. We get some decent free agents. No, big names, but we did alright. Haley is almost the coach of the year. Cassel backs that ass up right into the playoffs. We lose, we suck again.

This season, the draft seems alright, shortened offseason, weird preseason (you can debate that if you choose). Injuries, suckage, injuries, suckage, Palko, ultimate suckage, Haley gone, Orton, succesful suckage, season over, RAC city.

Now here we are and all you guys can say is Clark never spends, even though he got the best: GM, OC, DC and OC (Haley) money could buy. For the most part he has signed all of the players we need to keep. Looks like he is spending to me. The whole Smith thing I don't know what that was, so if you feel you must count that then go ahead.

We have a GM that is on his last leg. You guys talk about his ego, for one, most people have egos especially in pro sports, so who cares if he does? For two, do you really think he's going to let the season go to shit because of Cassel? Why would he do that? Oh, he won't bench or cut him because that's admitting a mistake, well Todd Haley says hi.

Now the draft a QB thing. The ****ing draft hasn't even happened yet, shit the SuperBowl hasn't happened and you guys are crying about shit that has happened in the past that has nothing to do with the future. We don't know if we will trade up or not. No one in the organization has been in this situation before, not Pioli or Clark, so can we atleast wait for the draft. As i've shown, Clark is doing what he thinks is right and plus he's a business man he's not going to blow his money because some people in a forum want him too.

I for one think we are in a great position both Pioli and Rac are trying to save there asses and if it comes down to Pioli or Cassel who do you think will be gone first. Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then.....

DeezNutz 01-10-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8282448)
I've been sitting back, going through these threads for the last couple of days reading how: if we keep Romeo that means Cassel, if we would've gotten McD that meant Cassel, Pioli has the biggest ego, Clark Hunt is cheap, 40 years means we will never get a QB and on and on and on.

When Clark officially took over what did he do? He went out and got the best candidate for the job. Whatever the price, he paid it. Then Pioli brought in Haley, who just came from the SuperBowl. (Seemed good at the time and there weren't too many complaints when we went to the playoffs) Then Pioli got us a QB and a Vet LB for a second round pick. (Again, it seemed good at the time, and Cassel did pretty good the season before and when we went to the playoffs) The first draft was a bust, but that is not on the Clarks...lol, that's Pioli and his goons right there. We bring in some cast offs and try to make them stick, most don't, (again, the goons plus Haley at work) Season is a bust and we sucked.

Next season, bring in the best OC and DC you can get, money be damned. The draft was a huge success. We get some decent free agents. No, big names, but we did alright. Haley is almost the coach of the year. Cassel backs that ass up right into the playoffs. We lose, we suck again.

This season, the draft seems alright, shortened offseason, weird preseason (you can debate that if you choose). Injuries, suckage, injuries, suckage, Palko, ultimate suckage, Haley gone, Orton, succesful suckage, season over, RAC city.

Now here we are and all you guys can say is Clark never spends, even though he got the best: GM, OC, DC and OC (Haley) money could buy. For the most part he has signed all of the players we need to keep. Looks like he is spending to me. The whole Smith thing I don't know what that was, so if you feel you must count that then go ahead.

We have a GM that is on his last leg. You guys talk about his ego, for one, most people have egos especially in pro sports, so who cares if he does? For two, do you really think he's going to let the season go to shit because of Cassel? Why would he do that? Oh, he won't bench or cut him because that's admitting a mistake, well Todd Haley says hi.

Now the draft a QB thing. The ****ing draft hasn't even happened yet, shit the SuperBowl hasn't happened and you guys are crying about shit that has happened in the past that has nothing to do with the future. We don't know if we will trade up or not. No one in the organization has been in this situation before, not Pioli or Clark, so can we atleast wait for the draft. As i've shown, Clark is doing what he thinks is right and plus he's a business man he's not going to blow his money because some people in a forum want him too.

I for one think we are in a great position both Pioli and Rac are trying to save there asses and if it comes down to Pioli or Cassel who do you think will be gone first. Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then

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What?

durtyrute 01-10-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8282453)
What?

When has it happened that Clark was in full control, had three sub par qb's to choose from, playmakers coming off of injury, an interim turned HC it goes on and on. He hasn't done THIS before and neither has Pioli.

Rasputin 01-10-2012 11:35 AM

Rubble rubble rubble rubble RUBBLE RUBBLE rubble rubble rubble rubble rubble rubble

DeezNutz 01-10-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8282457)
When has it happened that Clark was in full control, had three sub par qb's to choose from, playmakers coming off of injury, an interim turned HC it goes on and on. He hasn't done THIS before and neither has Pioli.

Look at this list; it's a complete cluster****. Not a single good thing about it, save that it might lead to Pioli getting fired sooner rather than later.

Monty 01-10-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8282448)
Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then.....

I've got the malatov cocktails at the ready....just sayin'.

BigChiefFan 01-10-2012 11:37 AM

You bring up some points, but we have 40 years of evidence of how the team approaches things. After 40 plus years of half-assed approaches, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt.

durtyrute 01-10-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8282464)
You bring up some points, but we have 40 years of evidence of how the team approaches things. After 40 plus years of half-assed approaches, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt.

I can definitely see that, but it's not old man Hunt, nor is it Carl. We might not go out and spend like crazy, but we're making real improvements.

durtyrute 01-10-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Monty (Post 8282461)
I've got the malatov cocktails at the ready....just sayin'.

LMAO

durtyrute 01-10-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8282460)
Look at this list; it's a complete cluster****. Not a single good thing about it, save that it might lead to Pioli getting fired sooner rather than later.

That is true, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in kentucky?

BigChiefFan 01-10-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8282460)
Look at this list; it's a complete cluster****. Not a single good thing about it, save that it might lead to Pioli getting fired sooner rather than later.

I don't get all the Pioli hate. Did you forget Carl Peterson and his abyssmal drafts and player acquisitions?

Fish 01-10-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8282448)
I've been sitting back, going through these threads for the last couple of days reading how: if we keep Romeo that means Cassel, if we would've gotten McD that meant Cassel, Pioli has the biggest ego, Clark Hunt is cheap, 40 years means we will never get a QB and on and on and on.

When Clark officially took over what did he do? He went out and got the best candidate for the job. Whatever the price, he paid it. Then Pioli brought in Haley, who just came from the SuperBowl. (Seemed good at the time and there weren't too many complaints when we went to the playoffs) Then Pioli got us a QB and a Vet LB for a second round pick. (Again, it seemed good at the time, and Cassel did pretty good the season before and when we went to the playoffs) The first draft was a bust, but that is not on the Clarks...lol, that's Pioli and his goons right there. We bring in some cast offs and try to make them stick, most don't, (again, the goons plus Haley at work) Season is a bust and we sucked.

Next season, bring in the best OC and DC you can get, money be damned. The draft was a huge success. We get some decent free agents. No, big names, but we did alright. Haley is almost the coach of the year. Cassel backs that ass up right into the playoffs. We lose, we suck again.

This season, the draft seems alright, shortened offseason, weird preseason (you can debate that if you choose). Injuries, suckage, injuries, suckage, Palko, ultimate suckage, Haley gone, Orton, succesful suckage, season over, RAC city.

Now here we are and all you guys can say is Clark never spends, even though he got the best: GM, OC, DC and OC (Haley) money could buy. For the most part he has signed all of the players we need to keep. Looks like he is spending to me. The whole Smith thing I don't know what that was, so if you feel you must count that then go ahead.

We have a GM that is on his last leg. You guys talk about his ego, for one, most people have egos especially in pro sports, so who cares if he does? For two, do you really think he's going to let the season go to shit because of Cassel? Why would he do that? Oh, he won't bench or cut him because that's admitting a mistake, well Todd Haley says hi.

Now the draft a QB thing. The ****ing draft hasn't even happened yet, shit the SuperBowl hasn't happened and you guys are crying about shit that has happened in the past that has nothing to do with the future. We don't know if we will trade up or not. No one in the organization has been in this situation before, not Pioli or Clark, so can we atleast wait for the draft. As i've shown, Clark is doing what he thinks is right and plus he's a business man he's not going to blow his money because some people in a forum want him too.

I for one think we are in a great position both Pioli and Rac are trying to save there asses and if it comes down to Pioli or Cassel who do you think will be gone first. Now, if we don't sign Bowe and Carr, go into the season with just Cassel and don't draft a qb or at least let Stanzi battle with Cassel then we should burn the place down, but until then.....

That's a contradictory mess of stupid.

L.A. Chieffan 01-10-2012 11:42 AM

I couldn't have said it better myself.

PunkinDrublic 01-10-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8282470)
I don't get all the Pioli hate. Did you forget Carl Peterson and his abyssmal drafts and player acquisitions?

Matt Cassel alone is enough to warrant the Pioli hate.

durtyrute 01-10-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8282470)
I don't get all the Pioli hate. Did you forget Carl Peterson and his abyssmal drafts and player acquisitions?

That's part of what I'm saying too. Looks like two somewhat solid drafts, and one AFC West Championship. Yea he brought us Cassel, but he did pretty good with the Pats so it seemed like a steal. Plus 27/7 ain't to bad.


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