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Direckshun 05-29-2012 09:58 PM

Where does the Chiefs QB situation rank in the NFL?
 
This oughtta be good.

We've already done this once with RBs. The general consensus is that the Chiefs have a top 5 RB corps.

I'm thinking of making it a series as my interest and time allows.

Do not consider anything other than the QB talent specific to 2012. But be sure to consider contract situations and/or injuries when evaluating.

Patriots: Brady, Hoyer, Mallett
Jets: Sanchez, Tebow
Bills: Fitzpatrick, Young, Thigpen
Dolphins: Tannehill, Moore, Garrard

Steelers: Roethlisberger, Leftwich, Troy Smith, Batch
Ravens: Flacco, Painter, Tyrod Taylor
Browns: Weeden, McCoy
Bengals: Dalton, Gradkowski

Texans: Schaub, Yates, Beck
Colts: Luck, Stanton
Titans: Hasselbeck, Locker
Jaguars: Gabbert, Henne

Chargers: Rivers, Whitehurst
Broncos: Manning, Henne
Raiders: Palmer, Leinart, Pryor
Chiefs: Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi

Cowboys: Romo, Orton
Eagles: Vick, Kafka, Foles
Giants: Manning, Carr
Redskins: Griffin, Grossman, Cousins

Packers: Rodgers, Harrell
Vikings: Ponder, Rosenfels, Webb
Bears: Cutler, Campbell, McCown
Lions: Stafford, Shaun Hill, Kellen Moore

Falcons: Ryan, Chris Redman
Panthers: Newton, Derek Anderson, Clausen
Buccaneers: Freeman, Orlovsky
Saints: Brees, Daniel

Rams: Bradford, Clemens
49ers: Smith, Kaepernick
Seahawks: Flynn, Jackson, Russell Wilson
Cardinals: Kolb, Skelton

Direckshun 05-29-2012 09:59 PM

Now, of course, the exercise here seems to be: which team would you rather have the Chiefs QB corps over?

Hmmm....

Hammock Parties 05-29-2012 10:00 PM

#32, especially if Quinn is the #2

If Stanzi actually shows some potential we could get into the high 20s.

Direckshun 05-29-2012 10:01 PM

I'd rather have the Chiefs' trio than:

Jets: Sanchez, Tebow
Bills: Fitzpatrick, Young, Thigpen
Dolphins: Tannehill, Moore, Garrard
Browns: Weeden, McCoy
Titans: Hasselbeck, Locker
Jaguars: Gabbert, Henne
Raiders: Palmer, Leinart, Pryor
Vikings: Ponder, Rosenfels, Webb
49ers: Smith, Kaepernick
Cardinals: Kolb, Skelton

So that would, in my estimation, give us the 11th worst QB corps.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-29-2012 10:01 PM

Jets
Jags
Cards

Yuck.

Gadzooks 05-29-2012 10:05 PM

27th.
Better than Cardinals, Dolphins, Browns, Jaguars and Vikings.

Hammock Parties 05-29-2012 10:05 PM

Browns: Weeden, McCoy
Jaguars: Gabbert, Henne
Vikings: Ponder, Rosenfels, Webb
Buccaneers: Freeman, Orlovsky
49ers: Smith, Kaepernick
Seahawks: Flynn, Jackson, Russell Wilson
Cardinals: Kolb, Skelton

Here are the teams we are closest to in regards to QB situation.

I'd argue Kolb, Jackson, Smith and Freeman are better than Cassel. Guys like Kaepernick, Wilson, Ponder and McCoy are better prospects than anything we have on the roster.

We're probably not worse than the Browns or Jaguars. It's debatable. Bottom 3 or 4 is a lock, though.

One big pile of shit.

We're closest to the Jaguars. Cassel and Henne are very similar. Gabbert is shitty, but has some potential. About as much as a 5th round pick like Stanzi at this point, anyway. Don't give a **** about Quinn.

BigMeatballDave 05-29-2012 10:06 PM

33rd

Hammock Parties 05-29-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8646207)
I'd rather have the Chiefs' trio than:

Jets: Sanchez, Tebow
Bills: Fitzpatrick, Young, Thigpen
Dolphins: Tannehill, Moore, Garrard
Browns: Weeden, McCoy
Titans: Hasselbeck, Locker
Jaguars: Gabbert, Henne
Raiders: Palmer, Leinart, Pryor
Vikings: Ponder, Rosenfels, Webb
49ers: Smith, Kaepernick
Cardinals: Kolb, Skelton

So that would, in my estimation, give us the 11th worst QB corps.

Absolute idiocy.

Sanchez and Tebow have both won playoff games.

Fitzpatrick is easily better than Cassel, Thigpen is a push.

Titans blow our starters and backups away, WTF are you smoking.

Carson Palmer is way better than Cassel, so you lose that, too.

Alex Smith's performance last year, especially in the playoffs, elevates him over Cassel, so we lose that.

Take off the rose colored glasses. Shit, I'd rather have Terrelle Pryor over Brady Quinn. I can't believe anyone thinks we have a better QB situation than Oakland.

Gadzooks 05-29-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8646207)
I'd rather have the Chiefs' trio than:

Jets: Sanchez, Tebow
Bills: Fitzpatrick, Young, Thigpen
Dolphins: Tannehill, Moore, Garrard
Browns: Weeden, McCoy
Titans: Hasselbeck, Locker
Jaguars: Gabbert, Henne
Raiders: Palmer, Leinart, Pryor
Vikings: Ponder, Rosenfels, Webb
49ers: Smith, Kaepernick
Cardinals: Kolb, Skelton

So that would, in my estimation, give us the 11th worst QB corps.

You guys would be better off with Thigpen over Cassel. I'm serious.

Hammock Parties 05-29-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8646222)
You guys would be better off with Thigpen over Cassel. I'm serious.

I'd agree with this, and I hate Thigpen.

He's basically a shorter, more athletic version of Cassel.

Hammock Parties 05-29-2012 10:11 PM

The Hasselbeck/Locker thing is just mind boggling to me, DShun.

Would you trade Hasselbeck for Cassel? **** yes.

Would you trade Locker for Stanzi? **** yes.

Forget Brady Quinn. He doesn't even enter into any of these equations.

Gadzooks 05-29-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8646228)
I'd agree with this, and I hate Thigpen.

He's basically a shorter, more athletic version of Cassel.

That, plus he's got a pair of testicles.

BigMeatballDave 05-29-2012 10:13 PM

If it means Cassel is no longer a Chief, I'd take ANY OTHER group in the league.

BigMeatballDave 05-29-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8646207)
I'd rather have the Chiefs' trio than:

Jets: Sanchez, Tebow
Bills: Fitzpatrick, Young, Thigpen
Dolphins: Tannehill, Moore, Garrard
Browns: Weeden, McCoy
Titans: Hasselbeck, Locker
Jaguars: Gabbert, Henne
Raiders: Palmer, Leinart, Pryor
Vikings: Ponder, Rosenfels, Webb
49ers: Smith, Kaepernick
Cardinals: Kolb, Skelton

So that would, in my estimation, give us the 11th worst QB corps.

Are you High?


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