Spinoff: Second Hand Smoke Risks: Fact or Fiction?
I know we have had this debate before but I feel like getting a fresh perspective on this.
I would like to hear people's beliefs on the subject BUT I won't accept a simple "well the CDC says this or Penn and Teller say that"... as support. You have to actually presents FACTS. I personally don't think a legit study has been done to prove a statistically significant health risk to second hand smoke. That doesn't mean that risks don't exist.. that means that there is no hard science backing up the idea. HAIL SCIENCE! Ok, I'll start with my facts backing up this up in the next post.... |
OK, so let's start with a huge study done by the American Cancer Society.. not exactly the most PRO-Tobacco group...
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NOW before someone tries to quote the 1993 EPA study (the most often quoted nonsense) let me point out that it was completely debunked by scientists and even thrown out by a court of law. http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/982407.P.pdf They cherry picked studies for meta-analysis and never showed more then a 1.19 relative risk. Quote:
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secondhand smoke & smoking in general are ****ing gross.
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Clearly no. Just because something is gross doesn't make it harmful nor should it be a legal justification. Next... |
Ok, if anyone wants to go out and debunk the CPS-I data in my first post there is a new not yet complete CPS-II study being done by the ACS. Here is what they have to say so far...
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They have systems to do so, and you could make the law tailored to air quality - in terms of smell and people complaining- that's up to the owner to decide how he wants to and how much he wants to separate the areas or not. You still have a choice to support other bars & if it becomes a problem for the owner losing business / money, you can believe he'll rethink things & improve on it. -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums |
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There have been a lot of talk about the use of statistical testing. I need to do more reading to make up my mind. Frankly, I was under the impression that second hand smoke was indeed bad for one's health but now I am reconsidering it. Good stuff AC. |
Health risks aside, i dont want to smell your ****ing cigarette smoke.
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I'd like to find the original paper, but here's something I found. I'm sure you'll "debunk" it though. I, personally, find some of the claims a little over the top and extreme, but I'm still of the opinion that smoking with your kids in the car and windows rolled up isn't a great idea.
http://lancaster.unl.edu/home/Indoor...dhandSmoke.htm Quote:
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