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Deberg_1990 07-26-2012 06:34 AM

Fort Hood Shooting: Nidal Hasan Could Be Forced To Shave Beard, Judge Says
 
Can we just off this Piece of sh*t right now please? Oh, this story doesnt mention it, but hes also been getting paid his Majors salary for the past 3 years. :facepalm:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1702779.html




FORT HOOD, Texas An Army psychiatrist charged with killing 13 people in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood will be forcibly shaved if he doesn't remove his beard himself, a judge said Wednesday.

Maj. Nidal Hasan appeared in court Wednesday sporting a beard as he did during a court appearance last month. The beard violates Army regulations, but Hasan said it is an expression of his Muslim faith.

The judge, Col. Gregory Gross, held Hasan in contempt of court for keeping the beard and fined him $1,000. Fort Hood spokesman Chris Haug said Gross gave Hasan the choice to shave on his own or be forcibly shaved sometime before his court-martial begins Aug. 20.

Hasan again refused to shave and watched the rest of the day's hearing outside the courtroom.

Hasan, 41, is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the November 2009 massacre, the worst shooting incident on a U.S. military post. He faces the death penalty if convicted.

Until last month, he had been clean-shaven every time he attended court.

But since Hasan grew a beard, he and one of his attorneys have watched the pretrial hearings on closed-circuit television in a trailer near the courthouse. He refuses to shave, and Gross has indicated that Hasan might have to watch the court-martial from the trailer as well.

But on Wednesday, Gross said he wanted Hasan in the courtroom to prevent a possible appeal on the issue if Hasan is convicted.

Hasan's defense attorneys argued that he had not shaved in observance of the holy Islamic month of Ramadan. Ramadan is expected to end just before the court-martial starts.

Also Wednesday, Gross said he would review a copy of a new FBI report on the shootings. The report, made public last week, includes emails Hasan sent to Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical Islamic cleric killed in Yemen last year by a drone strike.

The emails range from rambling messages about supporting terrorists and U.S. soldiers killing comrades in the name of Islam to questions about whether al-Awlaki could help him find a suitable wife. The emails attracted the attention of FBI and anti-terrorism task force agents in December 2008.

But authorities did not pursue a case against Hasan, according to the report, due to a series of gaps and miscommunication errors.

Amnorix 07-26-2012 06:38 AM

I could give a crap about him shaving, or not, but the article where I first saw this said that he REMAINS in the military and is still drawing PAY!

WTF is that?!?!

Amnorix 07-26-2012 06:54 AM

This is completely insane...

Quote:

Even though Hasan has been in custody since November 2009 when 13 people were shot and killed at the U.S. Army installation outside Killeen, Texas, he is still in the Army and still draws his pay.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...ial/?hpt=hp_t2

notorious 07-26-2012 06:56 AM

Innocent until proven guilty?

I have nothing. This is stupid.

Deberg_1990 07-26-2012 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8768534)

agreed. depending on how many years hes served, his pay is around 70-80K a year.

Amnorix 07-26-2012 07:46 AM

Maybe they have to keep him "in" the military so they will continue to have jurisdiction over him in a military court etc.??

Amnorix 07-26-2012 07:49 AM

I'm hoping there is an ability to levy a fine on him (in civilian court it's generally called restitution), payable to the victims, such that whatever pay he has gotten he won't be able to keep unless he's found innocent.

Then this is much ado about nothing -- basically the government helped fund restitution for the victims, which isn't that big a deal.

KILLER_CLOWN 07-26-2012 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8768538)
Innocent until proven guilty?

I have nothing. This is stupid.

Yup.

Frazod 07-26-2012 08:55 AM

I hope they use a straight razor, and the ****er squirms around.

Gee, we kind of slit his throat, Your Honor. Oops.

stevieray 07-26-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8768523)
I could give a crap about him shaving, or not, but the article where I first saw this said that he REMAINS in the military and is still drawing PAY!

WTF is that?!?!



"workplace violence"

BillSelfsTrophycase 07-26-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8768581)
Maybe they have to keep him "in" the military so they will continue to have jurisdiction over him in a military court etc.??


Maybe...I can't believe they don't they have a "suspended without pay" option

Nightfyre 07-26-2012 10:25 PM

He continues to draw pay but it will be garnished as part of his sentencing. The Army has the ability to garnish your wages back to your enlistment date.

Chiefshrink 07-26-2012 10:32 PM

As he should. He is still in the military and draws pay. F**k your so-called religion of peace and your Sharia BS !!

mlyonsd 07-26-2012 10:51 PM

The fact he hasn't already been tied to a post and shot is an embarrsement to our society.

Chiefshrink 07-26-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 8770713)
The fact he hasn't already been tied to a post and shot is an embarrsement to our society.

You damn right ! And that's putting it politely:#


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