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petegz28 09-20-2012 08:20 PM

Who Whiffs, DJ or #34???
 
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Notice they both break to cover the middle

jspchief 09-20-2012 08:23 PM

Someone's job is the TE. The other guy is who blows it.

In58men 09-20-2012 08:24 PM

That game was last week time to move forward.

petegz28 09-20-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8931826)
Someone's job is the TE. The other guy is who blows it.

The way DJ jumped the run I'd say he wasn't covering a TE

petegz28 09-20-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8931830)
That game was last week time to move forward.

Yes, yes.....more highlights of **** ups to come!!!

jspchief 09-20-2012 08:27 PM

There is zero outside contain. If DJ doesn't cover the gap between the NT and DE there's a huge hole there. Hali goes wide, like he does 99% of the time, and the outside is literally empty.

I swear to god this defense is getting so ridiculously out-coached it's sickening. Crennel is being exposed.

Black Bob 09-20-2012 08:30 PM

Romeo whiffs with that 2-3-6 defense.

It's hard to stop the run with 2 down linemen. DJ and Daniels blew it but, we were screwed when Chan decided to run. This is the problem guys. RAC needs to go back to the standard nickel packages (3-3-5 and 4-2-5). Every TD we have given up but one has come from that formation.

If we are in a normal nickel, Berry comes up and knocks the shit out of Spiller. Instead he is stuck in the wash trying to blitz the QB.

What is DJ even doing on that play? How is he supposed to find a hole with two down linemen? i don't think he played it completely right but, the deck was already stacked against him. It's a bad defensive formation.

I have no idea why Romeo is changing what worked fairly well for the last two years.

In58men 09-20-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8931851)
Romeo whiffs with that 2-3-6 defense.

It's hard to stop the run with 2 down linemen. DJ and Daniels blew it but, we were screwed when Chan decided to run. This is the problem guys. RAC needs to go back to the standard nickel packages (3-3-5 and 4-2-5). Every TD we have given up but one has come from that formation.

If we are in a normal nickel, Berry comes up and knocks the shit out of Spiller. Instead he is stuck in the wash trying to blitz the QB.

What is DJ even doing on that play? How is he supposed to find a hole with two down linemen? i don't think he played it completely right but, the deck was already stacked against him. It's a bad defensive formation.

I have no idea why Romeo is changing what worked fairly well for the last two years.


Thank you Chris Berman

petegz28 09-20-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8931851)
Romeo whiffs with that 2-3-6 defense.

It's hard to stop the run with 2 down linemen. DJ and Daniels blew it but, we were screwed when Chan decided to run. This is the problem guys. RAC needs to go back to the standard nickel packages (3-3-5 and 4-2-5). Every TD we have given up but one has come from that formation.

If we are in a normal nickel, Berry comes up and knocks the shit out of Spiller. Instead he is stuck in the wash trying to blitz the QB.

What is DJ even doing on that play? How is he supposed to find a hole with two down linemen? i don't think he played it completely right but, the deck was already stacked against him. It's a bad defensive formation.

I have no idea why Romeo is changing what worked fairly well for the last two years.

Selling out on the pass??

petegz28 09-20-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8931851)
Romeo whiffs with that 2-3-6 defense.

It's hard to stop the run with 2 down linemen. DJ and Daniels blew it but, we were screwed when Chan decided to run. This is the problem guys. RAC needs to go back to the standard nickel packages (3-3-5 and 4-2-5). Every TD we have given up but one has come from that formation.

If we are in a normal nickel, Berry comes up and knocks the shit out of Spiller. Instead he is stuck in the wash trying to blitz the QB.

What is DJ even doing on that play? How is he supposed to find a hole with two down linemen? i don't think he played it completely right but, the deck was already stacked against him. It's a bad defensive formation.

I have no idea why Romeo is changing what worked fairly well for the last two years.

If he allows Daniels to take the middle and he takes the outside edge, which I think he was supposed too, the play goes for little gain

Black Bob 09-20-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8931873)
Thank you Chris Berman

I have been talking about this since I got here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8931874)
Selling out on the pass??

I guess?

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8931877)
If he allows Daniels to take the middle and he takes the outside edge, which I think he was supposed too, the play goes for little gain

It's just not working. it's to complicated or something. The main question is why are we even doing it? it's like RAC has out thought himself... Either it is going to click with all them at once and we will suddenly look awesome. Or, it will fail miserably and we will have to change back to last year's defense at the last minute.

I have a feeling that this is a make or break week for the 2-3-6

FAX 09-20-2012 08:40 PM

Hmmm. Sure looks like everybody went with the blocking angles, DJ blew his positional responsibility then got caught up in the trash, while Berry tackled one of our guys at the goal line.

Great coaching job there, Romeo.

FAX

petegz28 09-20-2012 08:41 PM

I think the Nickel D should be pretty standard...they go 3 wide we sit Belcher and bring in a DB. Everything else stays the same.

Black Bob 09-20-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8931896)
I think the Nickel D should be pretty standard...they go 3 wide we sit Belcher and bring in a DB. Everything else stays the same.

It should be but we aren't running it that way so much this year. If you get a chance, watch both highlight videos and you will see we are in that 2-3-6 formation on every TD we give up but one.

jspchief 09-20-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8931877)
If he allows Daniels to take the middle and he takes the outside edge, which I think he was supposed too, the play goes for little gain

But Daniels is taking himself out of the play by pursuing the TE. Spiller would run right by before he could ever change direction.

I'm sure that technically there is a blown assignment, but clearly that scheme is exposed. DJ holds the edge and Spiller runs up the center right past the Dlineman being double teamed and the safety chasing the TE. DJ hits the inside hole and Spiller bounces it outside because Hali is nine miles wide, tunnel visioned on the QB.

It's horrible. Even played perfectly, how does that D stand a chance? And the embarrassing thing is it's on a short field. We can't cover the pass in a 22 yard box without 6 guys in the backfield? ****ing horrible.


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