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Amnorix 10-09-2012 04:36 PM

So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?
 
So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.

teedubya 10-09-2012 04:38 PM

Just a small modicum of dislike. Nothing major.

Donger 10-09-2012 04:39 PM

I hate you. Oh, and may Gisele rend and torture Tommy anally with the all of the Lombardi's in their home one day. With no lube.

Molitoth 10-09-2012 04:39 PM

I knew Cassel wasn't the answer after the 2009 season.

If you know the QB position, you can watch to see if a QB can read a defense from the LOS, call correct audibles, go through progressions, and avoid a pass rush without going fetal.

He pulled off a few good games in 2010 against shitty teams which caused me to somewhat question his potential,... but then ended the season with another terrible 3 games of the same shit I saw the season before.

He should've been cut at that time.

CaliforniaChief 10-09-2012 04:39 PM

Trade away the draft for RG3 last year. The trade for Cassel was fine, IMO...extending him before the season was the sin. Let him play out his franchise year. At least TRY.

Amnorix 10-09-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8996510)
I hate you. Oh, and may Gisele rend and torture Tommy anally with the all of the Lombardi's in their home one day. With no lube.


I hope there are more than "just" three for him to be rended and tortured by...

:D

Crush 10-09-2012 04:40 PM

What should Pioli have done?

Die of AIDS.


**** the Patriots and the "Tree."

the Talking Can 10-09-2012 04:40 PM

and the pats fan show up....

acesn8s 10-09-2012 04:40 PM

He should done whatever it took to get Luck or RGIII.

Phobia 10-09-2012 04:41 PM

Cassel probably wasn't the worst decision in the world. Clearly he put together a strong 2010 in terms of statistics. But when it's so clearly not working, pull the plug. Obviously the last 2 or 3 coaches and coordinators haven't believed in Cassel based on the leash imposed. Equally obvious is the direction from the top dog that he plays or else. I think that's the crux of the matter. Dude won't come off his $60,000,000 bet.

ChiefGator 10-09-2012 04:42 PM

Well, just this year he could have traded up for Tannehill, or stayed put and taken Osweiler, Foles, or Cousins. That would not have helped us this year, but we would have a young gun at least to learn under Zorn.

In 2011 he could have picked Andy Dalton, or Kapernick.

After a couple really bad years, the last couple years haven't been that bad in terms of QBs. And this year should be decent again.

Crush 10-09-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8996517)
and the pats fan show up....


They have to defend everyone that was associated with their shitty franchise. It's in their DNA.

Amnorix 10-09-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8996512)
I knew Cassel wasn't the answer after the 2009 season.

If you know the QB position, you can watch to see if a QB can read a defense from the LOS, call correct audibles, go through progressions, and avoid a pass rush without going fetal.

He pulled off a few good games in 2010 against shitty teams which caused me to somewhat question his potential,... but then ended the season with another terrible 3 games of the same shit I saw the season before.

He should've been cut at that time.


He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?

Here's another stiff who had 27-7 in his third year that maybe you would've cut:

2002 San Diego 1616 526320 3,284 .608 17 16 52 24180 76.9
2003 San Diego 1111 356205 2,108 .576 11 15 68 21178 67.5
2004 San Diego 1515 400262 3,159 .655 27 7 79 18131 104.8



(Drew Brees)?!

chiefzilla1501 10-09-2012 04:42 PM

I appreciate the Chiefs swinging for Cassel, even if they missed.

I would have been okay if the Chiefs kept swinging but kept missing.

It is unacceptable to be oblivious for 4 years that you missed on Cassel, and not even TRY to take a swing at a guy you believe could compete for a starting job.

DaneMcCloud 10-09-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8996525)
He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?

If you had actually watched the games instead of looking at stats, you wouldn't be asking this question.


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