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HonestChieffan 10-21-2012 11:16 AM

Obama's Libya story getting crushed by the paper trail and facts
 
When will politicians...all of them...learn that spinning on issues to the point of changing the story in direct conflict with fact is a really bad idea?




Across 166 pages of internal State Department documents – released today by a pair of Republican congressmen pressing the Obama administration for more answers on the Benghazi terrorist attack – slain U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the security officers assigned to protect him repeatedly sounded alarms to their superiors in Washington about the intensifying lawlessness and violence in Eastern Libya, where Stevens ultimately died.

On September 11 – the day Stevens and three other Americans were killed – the ambassador signed a three-page cable, labeled “sensitive,” in which he noted “growing problems with security” in Benghazi and “growing frustration” on the part of local residents with Libyan police and security forces. These forces the ambassador characterized as “too weak to keep the country secure.”

In the document, Stevens also cited a meeting he had held two days earlier with local militia commanders. These men boasted to Stevens of exercising “control” over the Libyan Armed Forces, and threatened that if the U.S.-backed candidate for prime minister were to prevail in Libya’s internal political jockeying, “they would not continue to guarantee security in Benghazi.”

Roughly a month earlier, Stevens had signed a two-page cable, also labeled “sensitive,” that he entitled “The Guns of August: Security in Eastern Libya.” Writing on August 8, the ambassador noted that in just a few months’ time, “Benghazi has moved from trepidation to euphoria and back as a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape…The individual incidents have been organized,” he added, a function of “the security vacuum that a diverse group of independent actors are exploiting for their own purposes.”

“Islamist extremists are able to attack the Red Cross with relative impunity,” Stevens cabled. “What we have seen are not random crimes of opportunity, but rather targeted and discriminate attacks.” His final comment on the two-page document was: “Attackers are unlikely to be deterred until authorities are at least as capable.”

By September 4, Stevens’s aides were reporting back to Washington on the “strong Revolutionary and Islamist sentiment” in the city.

Scarcely more than two months had passed since Stevens had notified the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice and other agencies about a “recent increase in violent incidents,” including “attacks against western [sic] interests.” “Until the GOL [Government of Libya] is able to effectively deal with these key issues,” Stevens wrote on June 25, “the violence is likely to continue and worsen.”

After the U.S. consulate in Benghazi had been damaged by an improvised explosive device, earlier that month, Stevens had reported to his superiors that an Islamist group had claimed credit for the attack, and in so doing, had “described the attack as ‘targeting the Christians supervising the management of the consulate.”

“Islamic extremism appears to be on the rise in eastern Libya,” the ambassador wrote, adding that “the Al-Qaeda flag has been spotted several times flying over government buildings and training facilities…”

The documents also contain evidence that the State Department’s denials of requests for enhanced security in Benghazi in the months leading up to 9/11 may have contributed to the ability of the attackers to plan their assault on the consulate and annex grounds without being detected.

“I’ve been placed in a very difficult spot,” said Eric A. Nordstrom, the regional security officer who testified before a House hearing last week, in a February 12 email to a colleague, “when the ambassador [Gene Cretz, at that time] that I need to support Benghazi but can’t direct MSD [a mobile security detachment] there and been advised that DS [Diplomatic Security] isn’t going to provide more than 3 agents over the long term.”


http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/specia...reats-al-qaeda

Dallas Chief 10-21-2012 12:56 PM

Damn. The Obama administration screwed this up worse than I could have ever imagined. Makes me very angry actually. Grade A Eff-ups.

LiveSteam 10-21-2012 12:57 PM

Obama is WINNING

Brainiac 10-21-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9035351)
Obama is WINNING

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LiveSteam 10-21-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9035364)

Is that a pic of a white male redneck voter?

mnchiefsguy 10-21-2012 01:43 PM

Romney needs to hammer the President on Libya tomorrow night, in clear concise language that viewers can easily understand. I think if he does, he will this debate and the election.

HonestChieffan 10-21-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 9035494)
Romney needs to hammer the President on Libya tomorrow night, in clear concise language that viewers can easily understand. I think if he does, he will this debate and the election.


And the first interruption needs to be dealt with. Let Obama know the big dog has come to eat and he will get to spin his side when its his turn. Polite, firm, and clear.

RedNeckRaider 10-21-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9035476)
Is that a pic of a white male redneck voter?

Quite the opposite, a typical limo liberal voter~

theelusiveeightrop 10-21-2012 02:40 PM

Go to work everyday,and We are rewarded with Obama
America is a great country.

RINGLEADER 10-21-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 9035494)
Romney needs to hammer the President on Libya tomorrow night, in clear concise language that viewers can easily understand. I think if he does, he will this debate and the election.

Even if Obama finds if offensive?

mnchiefsguy 10-21-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 9035689)
Even if Obama finds if offensive?

I think if Obama starts whining about being offended, it will hurt him in the debate by making him look weak, and it will look like he is trying to dodge the issue. If whiny Obama shows up for this debate, Romney is going to flatten him.

LiveSteam 10-21-2012 04:10 PM

Like the cockroach that he is

ClevelandBronco 10-21-2012 04:13 PM

No one is more upset about this than President Obama. No one has ever been this upset in the history of upset.

Comrade Crapski 10-22-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9036037)
No one is more upset about this than President Obama. No one has ever been this upset in the history of upset.

ROFL


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