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KILLER_CLOWN 11-07-2012 12:59 PM

NOAA Confirms Hurricane Sandy Was Not A Result Of Ocean Global Warming, nor CO2
 
The NCDC (an agency of NOAA) publishes global ocean temperature records, which confirm that global warming of the oceans did not cause Hurricane Sandy - in fact, their most recent temperature measurements reveal that ocean temperatures have actually remained flat over last 15 years (thru September 2012), while CO2 levels have increased

http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a...ebcf970b-300wi

http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a...ed96970b-300wi

The chart on the left is a plot of global ocean temperatures for the 15-year period (180 months) ending September 2012. Clearly, since late 1997, global warming of the oceans has not happened and thus can not be the cause of Hurricane Sandy. (Unfortunately, some incredibly dishonest politicians and pundits have actually stated that anthropogenic global warming was the cause.)

The plot on the right represents ocean temperatures for the 15-year period ending September 1997. This chart depicts a modest warming trend of ocean waters, including an increase of CO2 levels.

When comparing the two different 15-year time periods, the following can be ascertained:

CO2 levels for 15-year period ending Sept 2012: Increased by 30 ppm
Ocean linear temperature trend equates to: +0.007 degree increase by year 2100
Polynomial trend and 3-year average indicate a cooling is in process
CO2 levels for the 15-year period ending Sept 1997: Increased by 22 ppm
Ocean linear temperature trend equates to: +1.10 degree increase by year 2100
Polynomial trend and 3-year average confirmed a warming trend during this previous 15-year period

Conclusions: The growing increases of atmospheric CO2 levels have not caused a global warming of the oceans over the last 15 years. Global warming was not the cause of Hurricane Sandy, which was essentially a typical weather hurricane that naturally occurs.

http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/11/n...g-nor-co2.html

ROYC75 11-07-2012 01:04 PM

Al wants a recount.

tiptap 11-07-2012 03:36 PM

Maybe we could learn Heat Capacities first. Please don't confuse temperature for heat. You flunk physics.

tiptap 11-07-2012 03:43 PM

Add up how much heat is needed to account for ice lost over that same period. And remember water is at least a thousand times higher heat capacity than air taking the same volume of both materials.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/nucc...t-al-2012.html

tiptap 11-07-2012 03:47 PM

Finally NOAA said that Atlantic Ocean temperatures were 3 degrees higher than normal for that time of year. That fed Sandy. That was anomalous.

BigMeatballDave 11-07-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiptap (Post 9096476)
Finally NOAA said that Atlantic Ocean temperatures were 3 degrees higher than normal for that time of year. That fed Sandy. That was anomalous.

Your tinfoil hat is on crooked.

J Diddy 11-07-2012 07:25 PM

I think it was a small group of underwater dinosaurs.

mlyonsd 11-07-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9097070)
I think it was a small group of underwater dinosaurs.

I'm going with low pressure from the air being sucked out over North America during campaign events.

cosmo20002 11-07-2012 07:30 PM

Didn't Maine approve gay marriage? In hindsight, God was clearly aiming right for Maine and just missed by little bit.

DrunkBassGuitar 11-07-2012 07:41 PM

I couldn't find anything on NOAA's website where they said it wasn't a result of AGW

but I did find this http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

DrunkBassGuitar 11-07-2012 07:49 PM

There's also this from NOAA

http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/art...sea-level-rise

What kind of sea level rise has New York Harbor seen over the past century?
We’ve had roughly a foot of sea level rise in the New York City area in the past century. That’s measured at a tidal gauge near Battery Park just off the southern tip of Manhattan. The majority of the sea level rise in the New York City region is due to global warming: primarily, because of thermal expansion of ocean water as it warms and secondly, melting of land-based ice sheets. Land subsidence [sinking] in the New York City area has been roughly 3-4 inches per century, which is primarily due to the Earth’s crust rebounding from being compressed by massive ice sheets that covered Canada and the northern U.S. about 20,000 years ago near the end of the last Ice Age. Local variations in ocean surface elevation associated with the strength of the Gulf Stream has played a small role as well.


So yeah...I guess they kind of said it had nothing to do with global warming...except for the parts that did have to do with it...

KILLER_CLOWN 11-07-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 9095836)
Al wants a recount.

Appearantly he got it, see drunkies post LMAO

J Diddy 11-07-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9097072)
I'm going with low pressure from the air being sucked out over North America during campaign events.

Damn you Chris Matthews.


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