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Quesadilla Joe 11-13-2012 11:38 AM

Phil Simms: Eli Manning is not elite
I got blasted this offseason when I called him a more fortunate version of Tony Romo.


Eli Manning made it clear last season that he considers himself one of the “elite” quarterbacks in the NFL.

Phil Simms disagrees.

The former Giants quarterback shot down that “elite” theory on Monday night in an appearance on CBS Sports Network’s NFL Monday QB show. And he didn’t just blame Manning’s current slump, or his poor performance in the Giants’ 31-13 loss in Cincinnati on Sunday either.

“No, he is not one of the elites,” Simms said in quotes distributed by CBS. “Because when I hear the word elite, I’m thinking about guys that can make unbelievable plays on the field by themselves. There are very few quarterbacks in that category.

“So yes, Eli has been a tremendous team player. He has been MVP of the Super Bowl twice. I know that. But the way I look at it, the answer is no.”

It’s hard to argue considering the way Manning has played lately. He has topped 215 passing yards only once in the last five games, and over the past three games he’s had no touchdowns and four interceptions. In his ninth NFL season, the Giants quarterback has dipped into one of the worst slumps of his career.

Still, he has his supporters. Although former NFL quarterback Steve Beuerlein agreed with Simms on the CBS show -- he said “The problem (with the Giants) has been productivity offensively and specifically, Eli is in a slump right now. He is not playing his best football” – Hall of Famer Dan Fouts took Manning’s side.

“You can’t spell elite without Eli,” Fouts said. “The pressure situations that Eli has thrived in over his short career, in my mind, make him an elite quarterback, because that is when you’re judged. How well do you do when the pressure is on, when you’ve got to win the game?

“And all you have to do is look back at his two Super Bowl wins and the way he beat the Patriots. I have to give him a nod and say Eli is elite.”

King_Chief_Fan 11-13-2012 11:38 AM


DaKCMan AP 11-13-2012 11:40 AM

Eli Manning > Phyllis Simms

Mile High Mania 11-13-2012 11:41 AM

It's a silly argument to be honest --- who cares?

If you really want to nail down "elite", the list had 3-4 current QBs. Then there is another level of badass that has 3-4... then you have really really good, with 5-7 QBs.

Deberg_1990 11-13-2012 11:41 AM

Hes an average regular season QB. But hes tremendous and elite when the stakes are at its highest.

Which type of QB would you rather have? A guy who wins alot of regular season games, or a guy who wins alot of playoff games?

Dartgod 11-13-2012 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9115222)

So, you know who else is not an elite QB?


loochy 11-13-2012 11:42 AM

2 Pro Bowl (2008, 2011)
2 Super Bowl champion (XLII, XLVI)
2 Super Bowl MVP (XLII, XLVI)
2 NFC Champion (2007, 2011)
NFL Record most 4th quarter touchdown passes in a season (15)
Tied NFL Record longest pass completion and touchdown (99 yards)
Tied NFL Record most game-winning drives in a season (8)
Most road wins in a single regular season and postseason by a starting quarterback (10)

2 Pro Bowl selection (1985, 1993)
1 Newspaper Enterprise Association first-team All-Pro selection (1986)
2 Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV)
Super Bowl XXI MVP
1986 NEA National Football League Most Valuable Player Award
Shitty QB Son

Face it Simms, Manning > you

bobbything 11-13-2012 11:42 AM

I'd take Romo, Eli Manning, and any other QB you don't consider elite for the next 10 years.

DaKCMan AP 11-13-2012 11:42 AM


Chiefspants 11-13-2012 11:43 AM

Yeah, so? Phil Simms is wrong, and so are you.

RealSNR 11-13-2012 11:43 AM

Simms just jelly he broke his foot in 1990 and had to give one of his Super Bowl trophies to Hostetler

Deberg_1990 11-13-2012 11:44 AM

Actually E. Manning has got it all figured out. He knows how unimportant the NFL regular season has become over the years.

Frosty 11-13-2012 11:44 AM

Phil Simms would know "not elite".

suds79 11-13-2012 11:45 AM


Eli's response?

"Scoreboard b!t#h"

Mile High Mania 11-13-2012 11:48 AM

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