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CaliforniaChief 11-19-2012 06:16 PM

The GM or the Head Coach?
 
Which should come first?

The Chiefs have followed the GM/HC model since Carl Peterson. But what about Whitlock's argument that they should pick the HC first and then let the coach and owner pick personnel people?

I'm coming around to the coach-first strategy, which may be why Pioli hasn't been canned yet.

It might be an added incentive for a coach like Chip Kelly to get the chance to build the whole system.

Your thoughts?

DaneMcCloud 11-19-2012 06:17 PM

Team president, GM, coach. All three need to work together towards one common goal. None of this bullshit where one guy has all the power or too much power and the other two don't have much say.

Whitlock's way off base.

DeezNutz 11-19-2012 06:17 PM

Yeah, Chip Kelly. No thanks. Not now.

Phobia 11-19-2012 06:18 PM

I don't care. I just want wins.

Iowanian 11-19-2012 06:18 PM

Give the GM the Ned Stark treatment and the new GM can come in and burn out the rest of the rats in the village.


Why continue to pay Team Pioli to scout draft picks they won't be screwing up for KC this year.....

DaneMcCloud 11-19-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9134648)
Yeah, Chip Kelly. No thanks. Not now.

He was shut down by a Pro-Style defense on Saturday and I see that happening against UCLA and Mora as well.

I think his "genius" has been overstated.

CaliforniaChief 11-19-2012 06:19 PM

Ok, dumb question. What does an NFL Team President do that is different from a GM?

I seriously have no idea.

Bacon Cheeseburger 11-19-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9134654)
Ok, dumb question. What does an NFL Team President do that is different from a GM?

I seriously have no idea.

Duh...important president stuff.

seclark 11-19-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9134649)
I don't care. I just want wins.

this^
i'm tired of making the decisions when no one's listening to me.
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Bacon Cheeseburger 11-19-2012 06:22 PM

Did sec say something? I wasn't listening.

ChiefsCountry 11-19-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9134654)
Ok, dumb question. What does an NFL Team President do that is different from a GM?

I seriously have no idea.

In the NFL, Team President is normally the business guy who oversees the ticket sales, marketing, sponsorships, stadium issues, leases, etc. General Manager is normally the football guy - hires the coaches, signs players, scouting, deals with agents etc.

Very few are qualified to do both ala Carl Peterson.

seclark 11-19-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9134664)
Did sec say something? I wasn't listening.

that's what i'm ****in sayin.
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CaliforniaChief 11-19-2012 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9134668)
In the NFL, Team President is normally the business guy who oversees the ticket sales, marketing, sponsorships, stadium issues, leases, etc. General Manager is normally the football guy - hires the coaches, signs players, scouting, deals with agents etc.

Awesome, thanks.

So does Donovan survive this purge?

Chocolate Hog 11-19-2012 06:27 PM

For some reason I've been pulling for Bill Polian lately even though his ending in Indianapolis ended badly and his drafts sucked the last several years. With that said the guy has turned around every franchise he's been with.

Reaper16 11-19-2012 06:29 PM

It's probably a mistake to assume Chip Kelley is only as good as the offensive scheme his team is using. Or to think that the 2012 Oregon scheme is the only thing he can coach.


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