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SPATCH 01-03-2013 10:40 AM

Defense: Will We Still Be in the 3-4 in 2013?
 
Who will be the next DC?

Which players would be out of a job if we changed scheme?

SPATCH 01-03-2013 11:15 AM

Bump 'cause this is srsly, guis.

suds79 01-03-2013 11:20 AM

I don't want this to happen but if they go back to 4-3.

Move Tamba to DE then you could possibly draft Jarvis Jones (even though I want Geno) and you'd have 3 pass rushers.

Hali, Houston & Jones.

SPATCH 01-03-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9274278)
I don't want this to happen but if they go back to 4-3.

Move Tamba to DE then you could possibly draft Jarvis Jones (even though I want Geno) and you'd have 3 pass rushers.

Hali, Houston & Jones.

Does Houston work as LDE? He seems undersized.

Also: Jarvis Jones at #1 overall would ****ing destroy my self esteem. Might kill myself, actually.

Dayze 01-03-2013 11:23 AM

Jarvis will go in teh top 5.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2013 11:27 AM

Hali and Houston will be fine as DE's in a 4-3 as long as we make sure have some beef at the DT's.

conveniently we have 'beef' leftover from the NT position in our 3-4

suds79 01-03-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 9274287)
Does Houston work as LDE? He seems undersized.

Also: Jarvis Jones at #1 overall would ****ing destroy my self esteem. Might kill myself, actually.

Am I missing something?

in a 4-3 you have Hali as DE.

OLBs are Houston & Jones.

Pestilence 01-03-2013 11:29 AM

Houston - Powe - Poe - Hali

That would be your defensive line.

J Diddy 01-03-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 9274287)
Does Houston work as LDE? He seems undersized.

Also: Jarvis Jones at #1 overall would ****ing destroy my self esteem. Might kill myself, actually.

Houston is 11 pounds lighter and 3 inches shorter than Jared Allen.

SPATCH 01-03-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9274337)
Am I missing something?

in a 4-3 you have Hali as DE.

OLBs are Houston & Jones.

I don't think either of those guys projects as well at 4-3 OLB.

DJ is not a great 4-3 MLB, either.

SPATCH 01-03-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9274344)
Houston - Powe - Poe - Hali

That would be your defensive line.

Houston - Powe - Poe - Hali

????? - Siler - DJ

Flowers - Lewis - Berry - ?????



Not sure I like it.

MagicHef 01-03-2013 11:53 AM

Does it matter? Denver runs a 4-3, but it could be said they play more like a 3-4. One of the OLBs (Dumervil) just happens to start the play with his hand in the dirt.

DaWolf 01-03-2013 11:53 AM

If Heckert is the next GM, seems like he's more comfortable drafting for a 4-3. They transitioned from 3-4 to 4-3 when they took over for Mangini in Cleveland...

Easy 6 01-03-2013 11:53 AM

I would really hate to switch over, this unit as is, is the undeniable strength of the team, just a small handful of players from being complete.

Switching up, would erase all of that progress and take atleast a full year to get the new pieces in place, more likely two years, for each player to be the ideal fit.

I've also always believed the 3-4 to be a more versatile setup, the extra LB can play better coverage than a lineman or play more like a lineman when needed, and the oversized DE's plus huge NT'S make for a helluva short yardage package.

Having said that, if it takes a 4-3 to get Reid in here, i'll live, but it just seems like such a waste.

Rausch 01-03-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9274490)
I would really hate to switch over, this unit as is, is the undeniable strength of the team, just a small handful of players from being complete.

Switching up, would erase all of that progress and take atleast a full year to get the new pieces in place, more likely two years, for each player to be the ideal fit.

I've also always believed the 3-4 to be a more versatile setup, the extra LB can play better coverage than a lineman or play more like a lineman when needed, and the oversized DE's plus huge NT'S make for a helluva short yardage package.

Having said that, if it takes a 4-3 to get Reid in here, i'll live, but it just seems like such a waste.

Completely agree.

The only thing that gives me hope is that Phat Andy likes an attacking defense.

Perhaps he hires an attacking 3-4 guy instead of our current "d lineman aren't supposed to rush the passer" defense...


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