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Mr_Tomahawk 01-09-2013 09:39 PM

...because Reid isn't going to "reach" for a QB in the 1st.


Prospect: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse Orange
Height: 6’2
Weight: 228 lbs.
Grade: 6.9 (Grading Scale)

Scouting Report

+Underrated as an athlete, has the ability to tuck the ball and pick up first downs or get into the endzone
+Thick build, he can take a hit and get back up
+Moves well in the pocket, is able to side step and climb the pocket to avoid the pass rush
+Balanced in his movements, though he does not always reset his feet when trying to make a throw
-Listed at 6’2, and will need to measure out at that height for fear of dealing with the dreaded height questions that have plagued so many QB’s

Arm Talent:
+Has a very strong arm, can make any throw that a team needs him to
+Puts enough pace on the ball to push the ball to the boundary side outside the hash
+Can fit the ball into tight spaces due to his arm strength, can pick zone coverage when given the time
+Release is compact and quick, though it doesn’t always come from the same arm slot
+Will change his arm slot to fit the ball into a passing lane, this costs him little to no arm strength
-At times puts too much faith into his arm and will try and throw the ball through the defense rather than take the easy check down
-Only knows how to throw one type of pass and that’s the fast ball

Pocket Presence:
+Is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit in order to deliver a pass
+Rarely drops his eye level when manuevering inside the pocket
+Good footwork to quicly move away from pressure
+Has experience dropping back from under center, working out of 3, 5, and 7 step drops
+Does well to sell the play-action fake coming away from center and turning his back to the defense

Command of Offense:
+Spent three years working under Doug Marrone and running an under center pro style offense
+Is able to get CB’s to bite on pump fakes and will look safeties off his read
+Unquestioned leader in the huddle, is one of the toughest players on the team and leads by example
+Is more than willing to put the entire offense on his shoulders
-Still developing the feel for when to check down or just throw the ball away, still believe his arm can make any play happen
-Locks on to primary read and will not progress fast enough

No senior QB showed me more this season than Ryan Nassib, his growth and command of this team is the illustration of a what a true field general is. Nassib was a guy I wasn’t completely sold on coming into his senior year but he showed me enough tell me that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

He needs to go to a team that has a strong offensive coordinator and QB coach who can help continue his development and help him smooth out some of his rougher edges. Nassib needs to continue to learn how to go through progressions and work on identifying the defense pre-snap so he knows what to do with the ball post-snap.

In the end Nassib gives you a QB with that classic gun slinger mentality. He’s going to make some throws that are going to put you in a position to win a game and he’s going to make some throws that could cost you a game. Up until this year you never knew which one of those throws you were going to get on any given drop back but now he’s taken that next step further and seems destined to become a starter in the NFL one day.

I’d put Nassib’s stock somewhere in the Round 2 to 3 range right now, but with the way QB’s are valued he could find himself closer to pick 32 than to pick 64.

Scouting Notes

Ryan Nassib v. Northwestern
-good size for position
-shows a clean, quick release
-hits tight end over the middle, shows nice zip
-throws on the run to the right, delivers a nice ball for big gain
-looked over his available WR to the left, delivers a strike

Ryan Nassib v. USC
- 3rd and Short- his reads are covered and backside pressure comes, runs out of the pocket, throws the ball as he is being hit right to a USC defender – Really poor decision
– Rolls out to his right has WR wide open, but doesn’t reset and misses the target high – Not a good start
– Three step drop, needs to get rid of ball, but he pump fakes and gets sacked
– Has little to no touch on short/intermediate passes, winds up like an outfielder throwing the ball and throws it as hard as he can

Ryan Nassib v. Rutgers
-Great level throw over linebackers, delivering high with velocity
-Can hold the ball too long when initial read struggles to get open
-Over-trusts first read a little long at times, needs to progress by reading DBs
-Anticipates receiver routes/breaks very well, high velocity
-Showcasing fantastic arm strength consistently
-Better than usual velocity control in the middle of the field

El Jefe 01-09-2013 09:40 PM


jd1020 01-09-2013 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9301820)
...because Reid isn't going to "reach" for a QB in the 1st.

Burn it.

WildTurkey 01-09-2013 09:41 PM

Wouldn't be shocked if he went mid to late first.

Simplicity 01-09-2013 09:41 PM

ewwwwwwwwwwwww. No.

DeezNutz 01-09-2013 09:48 PM

If we won't reach for a QB in the first, we might as well reach for one in the second.

Dude sucks.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-09-2013 09:48 PM

No. They tried to give him more responsibility early in the season and he was stinking it up. They Cassel'd him and they started winning. He's a game the college level no less. No.

Stanley Nickels 01-09-2013 10:19 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see Marrone nab Nassib in the first.

WildTurkey 01-09-2013 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9301893)
I wouldn't be surprised to see Marrone nab Nassib in the first.

Exactly what I was thinking.. In an era where guys like Ponder go in the first it's not out of the question to see Nassib go in the first as well especially with his college coach now with the bills

duncan_idaho 01-09-2013 10:50 PM

The same site/network has Geno Smith graded at 7.7 (which is top 10 at his position in their system).

That's a higher grade than they gave Sam Bradford. Only Andrew Luck, Robbert Griffin and Matthew Stafford have gotten better grades from them, from what I saw the other day when I was poking around over there.

buddha 01-09-2013 10:51 PM

Nassib is good. I've only seen about three of his games, but he has a whip arm and he is very competitive.

Dante84 01-09-2013 11:57 PM

I like him, and he reminds me of a poor man's Brees(size, pocket presence) and Favre(gunslinger, fastball, cool penis).

If Reid thinks he's the guy, I'm happy with Nasib.

KCrockaholic 01-09-2013 11:59 PM

I can't even comprehend how there is any other option besides Geno Smith #1 overall.

DTLB58 01-10-2013 12:07 AM

Could probably trade the #1 pick with the Syracuse Bills @ #8 if you convince them you are taking this guy. :thumb:

Get a few more picks and cross your fingers Geno is still there, or move back up and get him if you get nervous.

jd1020 01-10-2013 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9302038)
Could probably trade the #1 pick with the Syracuse Bills @ #8 if you convince them you are taking this guy. :thumb:

Get a few more picks and cross your fingers Geno is still there, or move back up and get him if you get nervous.

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