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Direckshun 01-18-2013 08:16 AM

Between the two parties, the GOP is actually more diverse right now.
 
I totally wouldn't have guessed it, but that's why they play the games.

This is really positive for a party looking to modernize itself after the 2012 elections.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/18/opinio...ity/index.html

GOP's surprising edge on diversity
By John Avlon, CNN Contributor
updated 9:09 AM EST, Fri January 18, 2013

Everybody knows the Republican Party is basically an all-white bastion, right? After all, even Colin Powell condemned the "dark vein of intolerance" that has flowed through his party since the post-civil rights era political realignment.

Now with President Barack Obama leading the Democrats into a second term -- buoyed by overwhelming victory margins among African-Americans and Hispanics -- it's clear the GOP has some serious catching up to do.

This is why it might surprise you to hear that Republicans are by far the more diverse party when it comes to statewide elected officials such as senators and governors. On this front, they leave Democrats in the dust. And that's why the GOP actually has a greater depth of diversity on their potential presidential bench looking to 2016 and beyond.

It's counterintuitive but true. Numbers don't lie. Let's start with a look at the governors, the traditional launching pad of presidential ambitions.

Among the Republican ranks is Brian Sandoval, the Hispanic governor of Nevada. The 49-year-old former federal judge took on a corrupt conservative incumbent and is now racking up an impressive reform record in his first term. Likewise, there is New Mexico's Gov. Susana Martinez, a former district attorney who remains popular in her state despite an otherwise Democratic tide.

How many Hispanic governors do the Democrats have in office? Zero.

America's Indian-American population is fast-growing and successful. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is one of the nation's most innovative governors, and the former Rhodes scholar is newly committed to making the GOP no longer "the party of stupid."

If he chooses to run for president in 2016, Jindal could make a major dent in the race and possibly emerge toward the front of the pack. There is also South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who climbed from the General Assembly to the Governor's Mansion, breaking a number of historical barriers along the way. In the past two months, she has appointed the first African-American Republican from the South to the U.S. Senate since Reconstruction (Tim Scott), and her husband was deployed to Afghanistan.

How many Indian-American governors do Democrats have in office? None.

Now let's move over the U.S. Senate.

The aforementioned Scott just was tapped by Haley to finish out Sen. Jim DeMint's term, making the former congressman the first African-American Republican senator serving since Ed Brooke of Massachusetts in the 1970s. He is also the only black senator of either party.

Likewise, the GOP is looking at two young new Hispanic stars in the Senate chamber -- Florida's Marco Rubio and the newly elected Ted Cruz from Texas. Interestingly, both men are of Cuban descent.

Presidential buzz surrounded Rubio almost from the moment he entered office after defeating the sitting governor, Charlie Crist, in a contentious primary. He has put forward an innovative immigration reform proposal in recent weeks, which could help shape national debate, and he's already decamped to Iowa to speak at a political dinner.

Cruz is a former member of the Harvard Law Review who donned the tea party mantle to defeat a powerful sitting lieutenant governor in a primary. He was born in Canada to an American mother, a fact that hasn't stopped the fast-forward presidential projection. At the very least, Cruz will be a real force in the Senate for decades to come.

On the Democratic side, the only Hispanic senator is New Jersey's Robert Menendez. While in line for the chairmanship of the Foreign Relations Committee, he has been beset by ethical allegations for much of his career, most recently the accusation that federal agents held off from arresting an office intern who was also an undocumented immigrant and registered sex offender until after Menendez's re-election. (Menendez has said he didn't know about any possible delay.)

Menendez might have influence, but he is not a charismatic figure. That's why the Democratic National Convention chose to highlight San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro at its keynote, rather than anyone more senior or nationally known.

The Republicans' surprising diversity edge when it comes to statewide elected officials cannot erase the very real diversity deficit they face below this level. In the House of Representatives, often called "The People's House," the disparity is stark.

The new 113th Congress is the most diverse in history, but that diversity comes almost exclusively courtesy of the Democratic side of the aisle. For example, there are 42 African-American members of the House -- all are Democrats. The Hispanic population is comparatively less skewed, with 27 congressional Democrats and eight Republicans. Among Asian-Americans, we're back to the lopsided totals -- 11 Democrats and no Republicans.

It is a historical irony and a barely slumbering scandal that the Party of Lincoln lost its edge on diversity in pursuit of short-term political gain by realigning the Southern states of the former Confederacy in the wake of the Civil Rights bills that conservatives such as Barry Goldwater believed were unconstitutional. The times when Martin Luther King Jr.'s father, like millions of other African-Americans, was automatically a Republican are a distant memory.

But Democrats should not rest on their laurels after Obama. Their lack of statewide-elected diverse Democrats is striking and could provide an opening for Republicans in the next generation (if conservatives don't keep alienating that community with anti-immigrant rhetoric and legislation).

The old stereotypes don't hold when looking at the facts -- Republicans have been quietly making inroads into communities of color, even if that hasn't yet registered in overall voting patterns. And rising Republican stars such as Rubio, Jindal, Sandoval, Scott, Haley, Cruz and Martinez are reasons for optimism as we look toward the future of American politics.

CoMoChief 01-18-2013 08:37 AM

troll

stevieray 01-18-2013 09:00 AM

oh look, defleckshun clocked in at work.

blaise 01-18-2013 09:54 AM

Yeah but it's all Uncle Toms and sellouts so it doesn't count.

fan4ever 01-18-2013 11:51 AM

It's not about what the truth is; it's about what the media tells the sheep.

petegz28 01-18-2013 11:55 AM

Some have been pointing this out since W. had a black woman and black man in 2 of the highest positions of his cabinet but....

Munson 01-18-2013 11:58 AM

How can this be?

I thought the GOP was nothing but a bunch of women-hating racist old white guys?

cosmo20002 01-18-2013 01:32 PM

Did anyone actually READ the article? Here are the stats presented in the article without the narrative--just the numbers they present:

Governors, Hispanic
R - 2 D - 0

Governors, Indian-American
R - 2 D - 0

U.S. Senate, African-American
R -1 (appointed) D - 0

US Senate, Hispanic
R - 2 D - 1

US House, African-American
R - 0 D - 42

US House, Hispanic
R - 8 D - 27

US House, Asian
R - 0 D - 11

So, this shows the R "edge" in diversity? OK

BucEyedPea 01-18-2013 01:58 PM

That's funny, I don't see every poster backing up the claim based on your understanding of the article. Cosmos, sure you're reading things right?

What part of the term, "state-wide elected office," do you not understand? I just went and read the article and it's talking about state-wide seats. It says right in the article that Congress, which is not a state-wide election, is different because the Democrats hold the edge. The artilce is about Governors and Senators primarily governors.

Nice leaving out the context to the numbers.

Quote:

This is why it might surprise you to hear that Republicans are by far the more diverse party when it comes to statewide elected officials such as senators and governors. On this front, they leave Democrats in the dust. And that's why the GOP actually has a greater depth of diversity on their potential presidential bench looking to 2016 and beyond.

donkhater 01-19-2013 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9331125)
Did anyone actually READ the article? Here are the stats presented in the article without the narrative--just the numbers they present:

Governors, Hispanic
R - 2 D - 0

Governors, Indian-American
R - 2 D - 0

U.S. Senate, African-American
R -1 (appointed) D - 0

US Senate, Hispanic
R - 2 D - 1

US House, African-American
R - 0 D - 42

US House, Hispanic
R - 8 D - 27

US House, Asian
R - 0 D - 11

So, this shows the R "edge" in diversity? OK

Do any of those 42 black Reps come from white districts? I believe they are all from districts where the majority is black. Heaven forbid a white Democrat voting for a black representative.

go bowe 01-19-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 9332613)
Do any of those 42 black Reps come from white districts? I believe they are all from districts where the majority is black. Heaven forbid a white Democrat voting for a black representative.

sorta like heaven forbid a white democrat voting for a black president, isn't it?

mlyonsd 01-19-2013 09:14 PM

The democrats and their big government ideas will fade in the coming generations. Simple economics proves that.

go bowe 01-19-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9334291)
The democrats and their big government ideas will fade in the coming generations. Simple economics proves that.

they say when it comes to fading the pubs are destined for the same...

simple demographics proves that... :p

mlyonsd 01-19-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go bowe (Post 9334309)
they say when it comes to fading the pubs are destined for the same...

simple demographics proves that... :p

The inevitable cliff we're heading for will send you pot smoking hippies back to reality when you don't spend money you can't steal from working folk anymore.:p

go bowe 01-19-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9334345)
The inevitable cliff we're heading for will send you pot smoking hippies back to reality when you don't spend money you can't steal from working folk anymore.:p

i thought working folk got a tax cut recently...

as far as not spending what we don't have, nobody is going to give up any of their goodies anyway, so there won't be any serious deficit reduction efforts until it's almost too late...

it's the way of washington these days...

in 10 years the dems will gerrymander themselves back into control of the house and we'll see who gets brought back to reality...

and it won't be me... :bong:


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