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Deberg_1990 03-08-2013 01:54 PM

Top DHS checkpoint refusals
 
Interesting...This is how you resist tyranny....warrentless, unconstitutional checkpoints.



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BucEyedPea 03-08-2013 02:19 PM

Saw some of those. They're awesome!

listopencil 03-08-2013 02:29 PM

Love it.

Brock 03-08-2013 02:33 PM

Where was this?

Garcia Bronco 03-08-2013 02:34 PM

Personally I would just answer the question, because I am proud of it.

listopencil 03-08-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9477605)
Where was this?

One of the drivers mentioned Laredo, so Texas at least once.

scott free 03-08-2013 02:41 PM

I dont see what the big deal is about just saying yes, i'm an american citizen.

Anything beyond that, it might be different.

cosmo20002 03-08-2013 02:58 PM

Not sure anyone would celebrate the driver being a dick.

You want border security but don't want to be subject to answering a question upon re-entering the country?

gblowfish 03-08-2013 02:59 PM

Just sign ze papers, old man...

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listopencil 03-08-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9477674)
Not sure anyone would celebrate the driver being a dick.

You want border security but don't want to be subject to answering a question upon re-entering the country?

Not sure why someone would support police intimidation with the intent to promote stopping and searching of American citizens. If you want strong border security perhaps you should try enacting control at the actual border.

BucEyedPea 03-08-2013 03:17 PM

This isn't the only video of such incidents.

Deberg_1990 03-08-2013 03:20 PM

Is the officer at 11:16 retarded???

cosmo20002 03-08-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 9477724)
This isn't the only video of such incidents.

Asking a question = incident

Secure the border! Just don't ask me a simple question when I enter the country!

gblowfish 03-08-2013 03:47 PM

In Australia they ask you "Are you a Poofter?"

jettio 03-08-2013 03:52 PM

I noted that the tape that ended at the 11:00 mark, was one where he screwed himself by generating reasonable suspicion by not pulling over to the checkpoint.

Probably no coincidence that he does not show that one to its conclusion.

It seems like the border agents where quite professsional.

Constitutionally, according to the Supreme Court, law enforcement can always ask for your name and identification, even without reasonable suspicion. Unless, there is something about there being a checkpoint without reasonable suspicion that changes that.

Seems to me that it is reasonable to have immigration checkpoints in border areas.

It would have been interesting to see how the agents would have handled it if he immediately said that he was a citizen. Unless they are using that answer as a foot in the door to ask unreasonable follow-up, seems like he is just having a ball.

I think it would be better if he tried to do that at the beginning of a shift and when there is less possibility of creating a bottleneck at the checkpoint. Seems like every situation involved that pressure on the agents. Seemed like they let him go to avoid delaying other drivers.

Seemed like the one situation where there was not bottleneck pressure was the one he screwed up and gave the officer a basis for reasonable suspicion and the one that he did not show to conclusion.

Interesting to watch, but I am sure that it is selectively edited and incomplete.


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