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KILLER_CLOWN 10-24-2013 04:08 PM

Seattle forces 103-year-old to sell parking lot so city can turn it into — a parking
 
Seattle forces 103-year-old to sell parking lot so city can turn it into — a parking lot

Seattle’s City Council voted unanimously Monday to use eminent domain to take private property. They say they must seize the private property, which is currently being used as a parking lot, in order to turn it into … a parking lot. (Here is the link to the original notice). Local Station Q13Foxnews discussed this story here.

In addition to eminent domain abuse, the City of Seattle has recently been in the news for hiding public records, and sinking the farm boat. The common thread among all three of these stories is that, in Seattle, central planning takes priority over people. In this case, they decided it was critically important to seize a parking lot from its 103-year-old owner so that it can be a parking lot. At least this is their stated justification.

Seattle has a history of complete and total incompetence in managing parking, well-documented at the Pacific Place parking garage. Instead of abusing eminent domain, the City Council should have passed a resolution that would prevent Seattle from ever getting into the parking business again. For people familiar with eminent domain abuse, however, this is just another example of how Big Government Central Planners use their power to crush the dreams and aspirations of the “little people.”

The desire of the Central Planners for control is once again permitted to outweigh the people’s need for government to make rational decisions that benefit taxpayers and citizens (Of course, the City of Seattle just banned using the term “Citizen”). In this case, a 103-year old lady’s property is slated to be taken “for the greater good.” Yet that “good” is really just the personal aspirations of city planners and officials.

As has been pointed out, the City of Seattle actually has plans to “redevelop” this property and turn it into a parking garage or mixed use development once the Viaduct is gone. Most observers believe that when Seattle’s Big Dig is done and the Viaduct construction is over (assuming this ever happens), this woman’s land will be prime real estate worth far more than what the City of Seattle will pay by seizing it now. This might be true (although the City wants us to believe there is nothing to see here), but the property owner appears to have a plan to donate this property to charity at the maximum value so that her desired charity will benefit:

“…Seattle is being impatient with Woldson (property owner), who he (Gary Beck, president of Republic Parking Northwest, which operates the parking lot) says plans to bequeath her lot to a charitable group.

“I will guarantee you,” he said, “that when Miss Woldson passes away, and whoever the beneficiary of this property is, they will sell and take the money.”

Beck said he understands the city wants this property, but wonders why it’s spending the money to force a sale, which is going to happen eventually…”

(Seattle Business Journal - “City of Seattle plays Darth Vader in propety fight with elderly woman”-Oct 22, 2013)

The City of Seattle’s Central Planners are in a rush to use limited taxpayer resources to purchase prime property, but for no reason. Either way, this property will function as it does now – as a parking lot – for many years. If the land is worth purchasing after the viaduct is gone, surely there will be private developers who will do just that. It can be developed without the City of Seattle squandering taxpayer funds, abusing eminent domain, and (if past performance is any indication of future results) probably botching the job in the process.

Eminent domain reform is need in Washington State. As this story shows, these types of pointless efforts to abuse the process are completely unnecessary. It is one more case where government, given a tiny bit of power, constantly works to expand that power, resulting in abuses like this.

To contact the City of Seattle:

City of Seattle website
Contact Mayor McGinn: (206) 684-4000 or by email

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-ne...a-parking-lot/

http://myfreedomfoundation.com/blog/...-a-parking-lot

cosmo20002 10-24-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 10120446)
Seattle forces 103-year-old to sell parking lot so city can turn it into — a parking lot

They should have just waited a couple of weeks.

chiefzilla1501 10-24-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 10120446)
Seattle forces 103-year-old to sell parking lot so city can turn it into — a parking lot

Seattle’s City Council voted unanimously Monday to use eminent domain to take private property. They say they must seize the private property, which is currently being used as a parking lot, in order to turn it into … a parking lot. (Here is the link to the original notice). Local Station Q13Foxnews discussed this story here.

In addition to eminent domain abuse, the City of Seattle has recently been in the news for hiding public records, and sinking the farm boat. The common thread among all three of these stories is that, in Seattle, central planning takes priority over people. In this case, they decided it was critically important to seize a parking lot from its 103-year-old owner so that it can be a parking lot. At least this is their stated justification.

Seattle has a history of complete and total incompetence in managing parking, well-documented at the Pacific Place parking garage. Instead of abusing eminent domain, the City Council should have passed a resolution that would prevent Seattle from ever getting into the parking business again. For people familiar with eminent domain abuse, however, this is just another example of how Big Government Central Planners use their power to crush the dreams and aspirations of the “little people.”

The desire of the Central Planners for control is once again permitted to outweigh the people’s need for government to make rational decisions that benefit taxpayers and citizens (Of course, the City of Seattle just banned using the term “Citizen”). In this case, a 103-year old lady’s property is slated to be taken “for the greater good.” Yet that “good” is really just the personal aspirations of city planners and officials.

As has been pointed out, the City of Seattle actually has plans to “redevelop” this property and turn it into a parking garage or mixed use development once the Viaduct is gone. Most observers believe that when Seattle’s Big Dig is done and the Viaduct construction is over (assuming this ever happens), this woman’s land will be prime real estate worth far more than what the City of Seattle will pay by seizing it now. This might be true (although the City wants us to believe there is nothing to see here), but the property owner appears to have a plan to donate this property to charity at the maximum value so that her desired charity will benefit:

“…Seattle is being impatient with Woldson (property owner), who he (Gary Beck, president of Republic Parking Northwest, which operates the parking lot) says plans to bequeath her lot to a charitable group.

“I will guarantee you,” he said, “that when Miss Woldson passes away, and whoever the beneficiary of this property is, they will sell and take the money.”

Beck said he understands the city wants this property, but wonders why it’s spending the money to force a sale, which is going to happen eventually…”

(Seattle Business Journal - “City of Seattle plays Darth Vader in propety fight with elderly woman”-Oct 22, 2013)

The City of Seattle’s Central Planners are in a rush to use limited taxpayer resources to purchase prime property, but for no reason. Either way, this property will function as it does now – as a parking lot – for many years. If the land is worth purchasing after the viaduct is gone, surely there will be private developers who will do just that. It can be developed without the City of Seattle squandering taxpayer funds, abusing eminent domain, and (if past performance is any indication of future results) probably botching the job in the process.

Eminent domain reform is need in Washington State. As this story shows, these types of pointless efforts to abuse the process are completely unnecessary. It is one more case where government, given a tiny bit of power, constantly works to expand that power, resulting in abuses like this.

To contact the City of Seattle:

City of Seattle website
Contact Mayor McGinn: (206) 684-4000 or by email

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-ne...a-parking-lot/

http://myfreedomfoundation.com/blog/...-a-parking-lot

I don't think there's anyone who lives in an urban area who looks outside his/her house and says "oh goody, an open surface lot!"

I don't know enough details about this story. But for the most part, I despise surface lots in good areas, and really don't care if people get them taken away. In many cases, the lots are owned by people who live out of state and don't take care of them, so they become eyesores.

HonestChieffan 10-24-2013 05:27 PM

Seattle has great seafood. They should have opened a high end seafood place instead of a parking lot.

That aside, what is best for the people is what must direct the actions of government that knows what people need.

KILLER_CLOWN 10-24-2013 05:31 PM

What I've learned from CP...

People really hate 103 year olds that own parking lots...LOLZ

GloucesterChief 10-24-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10120723)
I don't think there's anyone who lives in an urban area who looks outside his/her house and says "oh goody, an open surface lot!"

I don't know enough details about this story. But for the most part, I despise surface lots in good areas, and really don't care if people get them taken away. In many cases, the lots are owned by people who live out of state and don't take care of them, so they become eyesores.

Thats nice. Its not your property. Wishing for it to be stolen reeks of worst kind of authoritarianism.

HonestChieffan 10-24-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris616 (Post 10120811)
I would like to know what the radiation sampling in seafood is up there. I hear there are signs of radiation making sea life sick. I read planes out of Vancouver to the Phillipines have to rotate staff due to exposure .

Do they land in Japan?

chiefzilla1501 10-24-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 10120797)
Thats nice. Its not your property. Wishing for it to be stolen reeks of worst kind of authoritarianism.

Like I said, I don't agree with Seattle's approach necessarily.

But let's be real about something. Surface lots are destroyers of urban centers, and I think they are entirely more difficult to get rid of than they should be.

By the way, I think it's interesting that a lot of the people who don't care about gentrification are probably the same people outraged about this parking lot situation. They're essentially doing something very similar.


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