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Dayze 01-26-2014 11:51 PM

Megadeth > Metallica
 
To start off:
I'm a HUGE Metallica fan. In fact my first 5 years of playing electric guitar was solely based on Metallica. I started off playing Bluegrass guitar with my dad, even though my soul wasn't bluegrass.

My first exposure to Metallica was hearing "Nothing Else Matters" on MTV before school waiting for my buddy to pick me up for school. I asked my brother if he had ever heard of them, and of course he had. He handed me a tape that had zero information of it. in that all the 'font' (for lack of a better word) was gone. It was a simple 'blank" tape. It was weathered, and the only thing I could determine that it was a Metallica tape was simply my brother's word. It was Master of Puppets Within 4 weeks, I had owned everything of Metallica and had thrown bluegrass by the wayside.

Long loving Metallica fan for years; devoted. Having heard Megadeth and loving a few of their songs, I was still committed to Metallica. However, years later, I've discovered that I may have been premature in my categorization of music.

Years had passed since I had really 'listened' to Megadeth. Years, as in 10+. Then, I stumbled upon a Megadeth record. While it escapes my memory at this point, the collective memory of the tunes has lead me to the belief that Megadeth is better than Metalica.

While some, to what degree I don't know, may have always held this belief, the discovery of Megadeth is a new one for me. After listening to many records, Im beginning to feel more confident in saying that Megadeth is better. Obviously, it's subjective.

Metallica's "Black" Album is equivalent to Pink Floy'd "The Wall" in terms of impact. However, Megadeth's "Symphony of Destruction", has been severely over-shadowed by the 'Black" album of Metallica. Subsequently, as it had been up to that point, Megadeth had fallen by the wayside. "Symphony of Destructions' release around the same time, was over-shadowed by the Black album.

After what was a universal success of the Black album, Megadeth seemed to finally have received the kill shot. But, if we are to look at the records and time frame comparatively, I think Megadeth got the short end of the stick.

Since then, Megadeth has sustained their status despite radio and marketing support. I've listened to several Megadeth albums/tunes from the "Black" album going forward, and I must say they are not getting the credit that is due. In some aspects, they blow Metallica out of the water. To be honest, they are quickly surpassing Metallica.

I've always been a huge fan of Megadeth since the Mechanix type songs. But since Peace Sells Who's Buying album, Megadeth has gotten the shaft. By a LONG shot.

TLDR....but oh well.

cosmo20002 01-27-2014 12:00 AM

Metallica definitely went more mainstream with the Black album and even more afterwards, plus they started doing some stupid shit like that Lou Reed thing. Meanwhile, Megadeth pretty much kept doing what they had always been doing.

Dave Mustaine has turned into a major nutjob though.

Dayze 01-27-2014 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10395601)
Metallica definitely went more mainstream with the Black album and even more afterwards, plus they started doing some stupid shit like that Lou Reed thing. Meanwhile, Megadeth pretty much kept doing what they had always been doing.

Dave Mustaine has turned into a major nutjob though.

Yep. Megadeth seemed to do what they've always done; radio be damned. I think there are so many 'Metallica' fans that are missing out on Megadeth/Metallica (Kill 'Em all, "Ride the Lightning" ettc) type music they've never heard because it's never been on the radio etc.

Mustaine lost his mind??

htismaqe 01-27-2014 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10395601)
Metallica definitely went more mainstream with the Black album and even more afterwards, plus they started doing some stupid shit like that Lou Reed thing. Meanwhile, Megadeth pretty much kept doing what they had always been doing.

Dave Mustaine has turned into a major nutjob though.

Why? Because he decided to stop doing drugs and become a Christian?

I've seen many recent interviews with Mustaine and he's more sane now than he's ever been. He's extremely intelligent, well-spoken, and grounded.

htismaqe 01-27-2014 07:45 AM

"Rust in Peace" is the best thrash metal album ever, period. I like Slayer and Anthrax, but the Marty Friedman era of Megadeth is a lineup that transcends speed metal and puts Megadeth up there with Black Sabbath and Motorhead for me.

For anybody that's never heard it, you should do yourself a favor and listen to Friedman's 1988 solo album "Dragon's Kiss".

htismaqe 01-27-2014 08:10 AM

I guess I never really directly addressed the original question.

For me, Megadeth is in my pantheon of great bands - bands that I LOVE.

Metallica is one of those bands that I "like". I actually only own one Metallica album, "Kill 'Em All".

Lzen 01-27-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10395721)
"Rust in Peace" is the best thrash metal album ever, period. I like Slayer and Anthrax, but the Marty Friedman era of Megadeth is a lineup that transcends speed metal and puts Megadeth up there with Black Sabbath and Motorhead for me.

For anybody that's never heard it, you should do yourself a favor and listen to Friedman's 1988 solo album "Dragon's Kiss".

THIS!

Lzen 01-27-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10395716)
Why? Because he decided to stop doing drugs and become a Christian?

I've seen many recent interviews with Mustaine and he's more sane now than he's ever been. He's extremely intelligent, well-spoken, and grounded.

I'm pretty sure that it's probably because, as you said, he stopped doing drugs and became a Christian. But I would also guess the fact that he's a conservative and has been outspoken about it in recent years has made cosmo cry. :D

Lzen 01-27-2014 08:52 AM

And as to the original topic, I was a teen during the Metallica/Megadeth origins. Like Dayze, probably one of the earliest guitar riffs I ever learned was the beginning to One. And I spent a ton of time learning songs off the Kill Em All album. I loved Metallica. But I always kind of like Megadeth a little more.

Since Metallica went mainstream in the 90s, Megadeth was easily the better band to me. More recently, I enjoyed Metallica's Death Magnetic album and felt that it was going back to their roots a bit. But it still wasn't the original Metallica. Frankly, I don't think that they will ever get back that vibe.

Reaper16 01-27-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10395721)
"Rust in Peace" is the best thrash metal album ever, period.

This is true.

htismaqe 01-27-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10395802)
And as to the original topic, I was a teen during the Metallica/Megadeth origins. Like Dayze, probably one of the earliest guitar riffs I ever learned was the beginning to One. And I spent a ton of time learning songs off the Kill Em All album. I loved Metallica. But I always kind of like Megadeth a little more.

Since Metallica went mainstream in the 90s, Megadeth was easily the better band to me. More recently, I enjoyed Metallica's Death Magnetic album and felt that it was going back to their roots a bit. But it still wasn't the original Metallica. Frankly, I don't think that they will ever get back that vibe.

Graduated HS in 1991. :D

I too loved Metallica, Megadeth, Overkill, Slayer, Death Angel, Anthrax, Testament, and too many more to name. I was skater punk, as were most of my friends.

However, I was also drawn to Ozzy, Dio, Yngwie Malmsteen, Joe Satriani, and stuff like that at the same time. I had a "thing" for guitar virtuosity.

For me, "Rust in Peace" and "Countdown to Extinction" are the perfect blend of BOTH and will always occupy a very special place in my musical psyche.

Bowser 01-27-2014 10:20 AM

Where would Metallica be today had Cliff Burton not lost his life?

Dicky McElephant 01-27-2014 10:20 AM

To me.....the Megadeth/Metallica comparisons are simililar to The Offspring/Green Day.

One was overshadowed by the other because of popularity.

Dicky McElephant 01-27-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10395982)
Where would Metallica be today had Cliff Burton not lost his life?

Still playing....only with a good bassist instead of that dipshit they have today.

Bowser 01-27-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10395989)
Still playing....only with a good bassist instead of that dipshit they have today.

Heh, granted, but where would Metallica be without Burton's influence on the band? IIRC, and someone correct me if I don't, wasn't Burton the guy that was primary songwriter and reason for their "heavy" sound?

I know the Black Album gained Metallica a ton of fans, but it also cost them a ton of their core fans they had from the beginning. I still remember those people bitching about how they sold out.

Just a fun "What If?"


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