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Prison Bitch 02-26-2014 12:26 PM

Are white voters becoming more Republican?
 
Sean Trende of RCP notes that white voters have become more Republican over time. http://www.centerforpolitics.org/cry...-white-voters/ A new study posted in Huffington Post yesterday notes psychological factors behind it:


Craig and Richeson decided to explore this idea empirically, to see if the likelihood of an increasingly diverse racial landscape influences the politics of white Americans, and if so, how.

They recruited a group of white Americans who identified themselves as independent and unaffiliated, and randomly assigned them to two groups. All of the respondents filled out survey forms, but the questions were slightly different for the two groups. Specifically, some respondents were asked if they had heard that California was now a majority-minority state. The others, the controls, were asked if they had heard that Hispanics were about equal in numbers to Blacks. All were then asked about their political ideology and which party they leaned toward.

The scientists wanted to see if the prospect of greater racial diversity nudged the white respondents to the right. It did, in both a national sample and (much more strongly) in a sample of western voters. These self-described independents also showed a slight shift toward conservative values, compared to controls. In short, those white Americans who were made aware of the country's racial shift did move toward more conservative politics -- especially when evidence of that racial shift came from their own region of the country.

These findings are compelling, but they do not illuminate just why such a political and ideological shift is taking place. Craig and Richeson wanted to drill down on the motives underlying this shift, in particular the notion that white Americans feel that their values and beliefs are being threatened. They also wanted to see if the whites' shift to the right involved only policies directly connected to race -- immigration reform, for example -- or if it was a broader ideological shift, encompassing military spending and other non-racial issues.

So in another experiment, some white Americans read a press release about projections of a majority-minority population in 2042. The controls read about increasing geographical mobility. Then all respondents answered questions about their perceptions of threat: Is the American way of life being threatened? Is the country on the right track? How do you feel about the nation's future? Is the status of white American in peril? And so forth. They then answered questions about various political issues, some (like affirmative action) related to race, and others (like health care reform) unrelated.

Again, the scientists found that those who were thinking about the changing racial landscape of the country -- these white Americans were more likely to endorse conservative policies. What's more, as described in a forthcoming article in the journal Psychological Science, this move to the right was clearly motivated by white fears of losing status. Intriguingly, the conservative shift affected both race-related policies and policies unconnected to race -- suggesting that psychological threat is capable of triggering a broad political shift....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wray-h...b_4848713.html

suzzer99 02-26-2014 01:15 PM

Yes you are growing new angry straight white guys (and their wives who usually come along with). I've seen it happen to my friends and people I went to HS with (based on FB) - usually guys who didn't really start caring about politics until their 40s and were never and still aren't very politically informed at all. Bonus points if they're mildy racist to begin with.

The question is will it be enough angry straight white guys to keep the party viable - especially as you gain smaller and smaller percentages of every other minority group - as your angry white guy rhetoric alienates them even further*.

*see Arizona, Republican primary debates, CPAC topics, immigration reform, Ted Nugent, Todd Akin and his rape theorist buddies, "states rights", forced trans-vaginal ultrasounds, etc.

also: http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/...op-and-me.html

http://erinjenne.blogspot.com/2013/1...ist-white.html

WilliamTheIrish 02-26-2014 01:19 PM

Forced trans vag US's? Can you help me understand why that is a political issue?

Prison Bitch 02-26-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10455201)
The question is will it be enough angry straight white guys to keep the party viable - especially as you gain smaller and smaller percentages of every other minority group - as your angry white guy rhetoric alienates them even furtherurl]


That's the question. Whether whites will go the way of those in California and be split or Texas where they vote over 3-1 GOP. Could go either way, but this study indicates that psychologically the typical white will follow the Texas model and side with their ethnic group. Something to watch for in the future.

suzzer99 02-26-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10455206)
Forced trans vag US's? Can you help me understand why that is a political issue?

Republicans in some states are forcing women to get a trans-vaginal ultrasound before having an abortion. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...state-near-you

Cochise 02-26-2014 01:40 PM

The Democrat platform seems to be more focused on race and class division all the time, I suppose it wouldn't be surprising to see them alienating whites who don't see anything in it for them.

suzzer99 02-26-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10455225)
That's the question. Whether whites will go the way of those in California and be split or Texas where they vote over 3-1 GOP. Could go either way, but this study indicates that psychologically the typical white will follow the Texas model and side with their ethnic group. Something to watch for in the future.

I can guarantee you whites in CA are not going to change in any significant numbers. You really don't want the GOP to hitch their wagon to that star. We have more of everything that midwest and the south fears (welfare queens, illegals, muslims, foreign languages, socialism, regulation, pollution control, tax, gays) fears and we haven't all turned conservative yet. Not gonna happen. The East Coast is the same way.

In fact you could almost say that actually having these people in your back yard makes you a lot less fearful of them than if you get all your information from Drudge. Just a thought.

Prison Bitch 02-26-2014 01:43 PM

By that logic, maybe Massachusetts and Vermont just need a half million or so white Southerners to be imported. So they can finally understand, and stop fearing, their ideas?

KC native 02-26-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10455201)
Yes you are growing new angry straight white guys (and their wives who usually come along with). I've seen it happen to my friends and people I went to HS with (based on FB) - usually guys who didn't really start caring about politics until their 40s and were never and still aren't very politically informed at all. Bonus points if they're mildy racist to begin with.

The question is will it be enough angry straight white guys to keep the party viable - especially as you gain smaller and smaller percentages of every other minority group - as your angry white guy rhetoric alienates them even further*.

*see Arizona, Republican primary debates, CPAC topics, immigration reform, Ted Nugent, Todd Akin and his rape theorist buddies, "states rights", forced trans-vaginal ultrasounds, etc.

also: http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/...op-and-me.html

http://erinjenne.blogspot.com/2013/1...ist-white.html

I can second this sentiment although my peer group is younger (I'm 33). A lot of people who were much more tolerant when we were younger have shifted. Some who were mildly racist are now solidly racist. What's weird about it to me is that we had a very diverse school and never had any racial problems when I was there (BIG UP RAYTOWN!). I see a lot of shit from people I would have never expected to have shifted that way.

What's also weird is a lot of them have latched onto the gun rights issue even though they aren't hunters or big gun enthusiasts (seen this from men and women).

It's a shrinking demographic though and if the gop doesn't want to continue its slide into obscurity then it needs to figure out a way to open the party up to others.

HonestChieffan 02-26-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10455235)
Republicans in some states are forcing women to get a trans-vaginal ultrasound before having an abortion. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...state-near-you


what states require a transvaginal Ultrasound?

ActiveShooter 02-26-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10455235)
Republicans in some states are forcing women to get a trans-vaginal ultrasound before having an abortion. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...state-near-you

Yeah and Democrats are supporting murder of babies. Democrats wrote and voted for all the Jim Crow laws. Democrats voted against the civil rights act.
Progressive Republicans suck, but Democrats are vile baby murdering racist.

KC native 02-26-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ActiveShooter (Post 10455265)
Yeah and Democrats are supporting murder of babies. Democrats wrote and voted for all the Jim Crow laws. Democrats voted against the civil rights act.
Progressive Republicans suck, but Democrats are vile baby murdering racist.

I love it when idiots like you don't understand history or science at all.


Democrats support the abortion of fetuses. Murder is a crime. Abortion is not. A fetus is also not a baby.

The Southern democrats who were in support of Jim Crow laws left the democratic party for the gop when the CRA passed.

There are no progressive republicans either.

ActiveShooter 02-26-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10455273)
I love it when idiots like you don't understand history or science at all.


Democrats support the abortion of fetuses. Murder is a crime. Abortion is not. A fetus is also not a baby.

The Southern democrats who were in support of Jim Crow laws left the democratic party for the gop when the CRA passed.

There are no progressive republicans either.

This is full of fail as expected from you. You are programmed with so much shit that you are a lost cause. They never left the Democrat party. They leave when they die like Robert Byrd.
As for progressive Republicans, how big a list do you want?
McCain
Romney
Boehner
Graham
McConnell
All Bushes
Christie
They are all big government progressives. Only difference between them and Democrat progressives is the pace of the change to Socialism. Democrats want Socialism NOW and think it will work. The idiots listed have given up and think it's inevitable and they only worry about their seats and way of life.

suzzer99 02-26-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10455252)
By that logic, maybe Massachusetts and Vermont just need a half million or so white Southerners to be imported. So they can finally understand, and stop fearing, their ideas?

Brilliant! An exchange program. Sort of like wife swap.

ActiveShooter 02-26-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10455273)
Democrats support the abortion of fetuses. Murder is a crime. Abortion is not. A fetus is also not a baby.

In many states including the Socialist Republic of California, if you murder a pregnant woman, you are charged with TWO COUNTS OF MURDER.. A baby in the womb can survive at 4 or 5 months of gestation easily. Abortion is racist because 64% of aborted babies are brown or black. Therefore you are a supporter of genocide. Genocide is a common result from Socialism.


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