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planetdoc 04-28-2014 10:36 AM

John Dorsey on the draft
 
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/4...2014-interview

(highlights below)
Quote:

On possible trading down, Dorsey said, "What this draft gives you, it's very unique, because there's depth at every particular round as we go through here. As the course of the draft goes on, if there's a favorable moment to trade back and get some picks, we'll consider that. But we're never going to pass up a really good player either. I think what you have to do is go along the three-day cycle here and see how it plays itself out. All of a sudden, if you think you can go back a little bit and get some picks, you go do that."
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"As you look at the WR position," Dorsey said, "every round there's unique value at that position to be had all the way down to the seventh round. I think depth has shown up in the cornerback position. I think there's some good players to be selected on day one, day two, day three. There will be some players on day three that will play past their projected round they were taken in."
Quote:

Dorsey was asked about one of his draft tenets and he said, "Be patient and don't overvalue players because they'll eventually fall to you if you have the degree of patience."

Halfcan 04-28-2014 12:03 PM

Dorsey was asked about one of his draft tenets and he said, "Be patient and don't overvalue players because they'll eventually fall to you if you have the degree of patience."

Be patient Chiefs fans that O Linemen will fall in our lap-don't worry.

OldSchool 04-28-2014 12:42 PM

Be patient, Zach Martin will be there.

jd1020 04-28-2014 01:33 PM

Dorsey talking about being patient while picking guys like Knile Davis and Travis Kelce in the 3rd. He also sure had a lot of patience for Braden Wilson.

Thats rich.

planetdoc 04-28-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10590919)
Dorsey talking about being patient while picking guys like Knile Davis and Travis Kelce in the 3rd. He also sure had a lot of patience for Braden Wilson.

Thats rich.

Every single one of Dorsey's 2013 picks were workout warriors. I expect that trend to continue.

That is why I dont expect Dorsey to draft the short-armed Zach Martin.

BossChief 04-28-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10590919)
Dorsey talking about being patient while picking guys like Knile Davis and Travis Kelce in the 3rd. He also sure had a lot of patience for Braden Wilson.

Thats rich.

I still think those were solid picks.

SNR 04-29-2014 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10590919)
Dorsey talking about being patient while picking guys like Knile Davis and Travis Kelce in the 3rd. He also sure had a lot of patience for Braden Wilson.

Thats rich.

He also clearly exhibited patience for his process when he drafted Braden Wilson and then less than a week later traded for Anthony Sherman.

And you know what? I wouldn't be ****ing surprised if the Chiefs drafted another goddamn FB this year.

RunKC 04-29-2014 08:44 AM

Wasn't Kelce a projected late 2nd rd pick? I remember Mayock saying how he was surprised the kid was still on the board when we picked.

DTLB58 04-29-2014 09:15 AM

That's right be patient. We can get an Offensive Lineman in the 4th or 5th rd to play G. That's the value of getting Schwartz off the scrap heap last year in FA.

You don't need to spend a 1st rd pick on one!

Play makers, We need play makers in the 1st round! :thumb:

Hog Farmer 04-30-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 10592475)
That's right be patient. We can get an Offensive Lineman in the 4th or 5th rd to play G. That's the value of getting Schwartz off the scrap heap last year in FA.

You don't need to spend a 1st rd pick on one!

Play makers, We need play makers in the 1st round! :thumb:

Ditto !

kccrow 04-30-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 10592475)
That's right be patient. We can get an Offensive Lineman in the 4th or 5th rd to play G. That's the value of getting Schwartz off the scrap heap last year in FA.

You don't need to spend a 1st rd pick on one!

Play makers, We need play makers in the 1st round! :thumb:

You mean like defensive backs that can pick off passes or wide receivers that make big catches down field? What are those?

Chocolate Hog 04-30-2014 11:12 PM

John Dorsey seems like a GM who doesnt know what hes doing

milkman 05-01-2014 08:03 AM

Really insightful stuff.

Paraphrasing here, Dorsey tells us the Chiefs may do some things, or may not.

planetdoc 05-02-2014 03:44 PM

Highlights from KC Chiefs GM John Dorsey's pre-draft press conference
Quote:

Who are you taking?
"Best available player."

The possibility of trading out of No. 23
"A man told me once told me not to pass up a good player. But if I can acquire some additional picks, in a draft that could or could not be deep, I'll do that."

The lack of a second round pick
"Part of that was acquiring an All-Pro quarterback. That was pretty good compensation. And who's to say we won't have a second round pick? It's one of those scenarios where you're on the clock and get phone calls because this player or this player is there."

Trade talks with other teams

"You do your due diligence. You call all 31 teams and just let them know if something happens you'd like to move up or down, you know what, our phones are always open."

Was the extra two weeks before the draft beneficial?
"Don't overthink it. You could overthink it in two weeks. I think you have to have some patience. It gives you some extra time to do some legwork that maybe you thought you were rushed on in last year's draft. It gives you some more time to relax, recharge and just kind of sit back. Just don't over think it is the easiest way to put it."

The ideal time to have the draft
"In the spring." ... (We laughed at this) ... "Every personnel guy loves the draft."

How many players are on the Chiefs board?
150-175.

Different between last year and this year
"About 22 picks" ... (We laughed again) ... "I'd prefer to be in the back third on a consistent basis. Last year was very unique. Hopefully it never happens again."

Better understanding the new coaching staff this year
"In my mind I always had a cookie cutter image of what a 3-4 defensive end is supposed to look like. But in coach [Bob] Sutton's defense, he has a big 5-tech defensive end and a 3-tech defensive end. Two distinctly different players to play those positions to succeed."

Alex Smith's commencement speech at Utah
"I told you this last year, I mean this. I haven't watched TV, listened to the radio or picked up a paper in like six weeks. I heard about it. I'm sure he did a fine job."

Does a first round pick have to visit the facility?

"Not necessarily. Not if you've done all your due diligence and homework. You have ample opportunity to get to know these players as the spring season goes on."

planetdoc 05-02-2014 03:47 PM

Devito is a 5-tech, but he is about the same size as Walker (though maybe heavier than his listed weight). Bailey is a 3-tech. Catapano can be a 5-tech if he has gained sufficient weight. Chiefs had Jay Howard playing nose against San Diego. IMO, Vance Walker would be a 3-tech (which is what he played with OAK).

Who is the "big 5-tech?"


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