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O.city 04-16-2016 09:34 AM

Fatal flaw in QB play
 
Slow day here, let's drive some conversation.

With the Rams moving up for a qb and these young qbs coming into the league taking over for the old guard, I think there are some interesting questions to be asked.

When looking at qb prospects, which "flaws" that they might have do you consider fatal?

So now you may ask, "o.city, define fatal flaws". Well, to me, it's inconsistencies that can't be learned or corrected.

The biggest one to me for a young qb, is accuracy issues. I feel too much of that is an innate thing that either you have or you dont and I consider qbs who struggle with accuracy to have a fatal flaw.

So, which flaws do you consider fatal?

threebag 04-16-2016 09:39 AM

Not running a pro style offense in college. Gimmicks suck

SAUTO 04-16-2016 09:40 AM

Balls, if they don't have them I consider that a fatal flaw

O.city 04-16-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12181547)
Not running a pro style offense in college. Gimmicks suck

I'm talking more in the qb himself, physically mentally etc.

I think a guy can be taught to run any type of offense if he's willing aND intelligent enough.

Bowser 04-16-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12181547)
Not running a pro style offense in college. Gimmicks suck

This. The Heisman winning spread option QB has generally been shit in the league either due to limitations with the QB or coaching staffs not having any clue what to do with them (with Cam and Mariota apparently being exceptions. Maybe Tannehill, too).

Bowser 04-16-2016 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12181550)
I'm talking more in the qb himself, physically mentally etc.

I think a guy can be taught to run any type of offense if he's willing aND intelligent enough.

Yeah, over time. Hell, it takes pro style guys time to adapt to the speed and reads of the NFL. You can add X amount of time to it when you have a spread option guy coming in making the transition.

threebag 04-16-2016 09:49 AM

Having the intellectual aptitude to read and react to defense is far superior to arm strength. The strongest arm on the field really doesn't mean shit when half of his/her passes are equivilant to punts.

RunKC 04-16-2016 10:07 AM

1. Confidence
2. Accuracy
3. Work ethic

You can't teach any of those.

O.city 04-16-2016 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12181553)
Yeah, over time. Hell, it takes pro style guys time to adapt to the speed and reads of the NFL. You can add X amount of time to it when you have a spread option guy coming in making the transition.

I think the pro style stuff is a little dated. The nfl is full of spread concepts, it's not the old 2 wr single tight I back stuff of the old days.

But where I feel you're going here isn't as much pro style vs spread, it's more interpreting exotic defenses and running the show themselves.

In college, these guys are asked to change line calls at the los, change plays due to defense etc.

I think that's the biggest difference.

O.city 04-16-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12181569)
1. Confidence
2. Accuracy
3. Work ethic

You can't teach any of those.

I think confidence aND work ethic can be, not taught but maybe incorporated for lack of better term?

Confidence comes from success, success comes from prep, so it's hand in hand I guess.

O.city 04-16-2016 10:14 AM

I would probably go with accuracy and pocket awareness. I think you can tweek them a little with mechanics and teps, but when you're talking muscle memory, it's pretty difficult.

So much goes into being accurate. Mechanics, timing, anticipation etc.

TimeForWasp 04-16-2016 10:17 AM

Over hyped college QBs with too much confidence. The cocky ones crash and burn.

Tacoman 04-16-2016 10:32 AM

I don't think you can teach having a natural ability to be accurate, but you can improve it with footwork.

stumppy 04-16-2016 10:33 AM

Intelligence
Work ethic
Accuracy

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-16-2016 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12181569)
1. Confidence
2. Accuracy
3. Work ethic

You can't teach any of those.

Amen. For number 4: I would have to add discipline/demeanor (on/off the field)

Wilson, Rodgers, Smith, Manning all had these qualities in their college days. unfortunately for Smith, he got thrown into the shit storm known as san francisco and had an entire fan base against him which destroyed his confidence as it would have to any other QB. Now he's got his mojo back.


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