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Sorter 07-22-2016 10:23 PM

What Are Your Thoughts On Motion?
 
My question to you fine people of ChiefsPlanet is this:

Do you think that offensive motion in football (not to be confused with shifts) is advantageous or merely a waste of time and effort?

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-22-2016 10:27 PM

I don't mind it. I would imagine that it increases the effectiveness of pick routes and makes it easier to flood zones, but surely it comes with an increase in procedure penalties. However, this has not been verified with any data, just a hunch.

LoneWolf 07-22-2016 10:37 PM

I always thought one of the advantages of using motion was to help identify the defense pre-snap.

cdcox 07-22-2016 10:38 PM

Ask Sorter. He knows more football than just about anyone on the board.

One thing it does is reveal zone vs man.

Giving the D more to think about and prepare for is advantageous to the offense, as long as they are well prepared in their system.

On a player level, it would seem to depend a lot on match ups. A WR with a really good move off the line might be best from a still start, where a long strider might benefit from motion. DBs factor into match ups as well.

Sorter 07-22-2016 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12329352)
Ask Sorter.

I'd prefer not to.

Baby Lee 07-22-2016 10:45 PM

You mean this offensive motion?

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Sorter 07-22-2016 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12329363)

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Discuss Thrower 07-22-2016 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 12329335)
My question to you fine people of ChiefsPlanet is this:

Do you think that offensive motion in football (not to be confused with shifts) is advantageous or merely a waste of time and effort?

It's a presnap version of play action, in my layman's opinion. Same advantages, same disadvantages.

Demonpenz 07-22-2016 11:56 PM

It is ****ing a beautiful thing to watch a TE go in motion and change the strong side of the offense then you see a backer take two steps to go over the TE and the MLB shift to a game and maybe the other backer slide in or out. Football man. All the feels.

In58men 07-23-2016 12:11 AM

Motion worked out for Manning pretty well.

RealSNR 07-23-2016 12:21 AM

I always kind of thought that all the effort Vermeil and Saunders put into getting their clockwork offense to run the right pre-snap motions was kind of a waste. That offense was so efficient, effective, and confusing as it was that it didn't really need the motion aspect.

Ming the Merciless 07-23-2016 12:23 AM

I never really thought about the differences of why would you call amotion vs a shift before......

A motion just seems like a shift where the receiver doesnt set? So a motion seems like a type of shift to me....

to try to get a running start?

Demonpenz 07-23-2016 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12329459)
I always kind of thought that all the effort Vermeil and Saunders put into getting their clockwork offense to run the right pre-snap motions was kind of a waste. That offense was so efficient, effective, and confusing as it was that it didn't really need the motion aspect.

The shift was dumb when TG would line up at fullback. I never actually saw him stay there for any play. So they would come out with TG at full back and then they would shift and of course TG would go to TE and the defense did jack shit to adjust. Then of course EK would just burn everyone 1v1

listopencil 07-23-2016 01:24 AM

I like having the option. Part of the advantage is psychological. Trying to get the D to pay attention to the wrong thing. It's just one tool in the box.

Hoopsdoc 07-23-2016 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12329350)
I always thought one of the advantages of using motion was to help identify the defense pre-snap.

I always thought this. :shrug:


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