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O.city 12-21-2017 10:10 AM

The Patriots having some issues?
 
I’ve been busy since the Jimmy G trade to the 9ers and haven’t had a chance to post this but I’ve got time between patients here so let’s get into this.

Reading some stuff about it and with info trickling out, I think brady power played Bill into trading Jimmy. It was all set up for them to move Brady after the season, then they basically give Jimmy away for a 2nd rounder. He goes to SF and looks like Montana 2.0 and now Bill is running Brady’s trainer off.

Weird shot going on in New England?

BleedingRed 12-21-2017 10:12 AM

I don't know but they ****ed up

Buehler445 12-21-2017 10:15 AM

Hopefully the whole program burns. Forever.

O.city 12-21-2017 10:16 AM

I think Tom went to the owner about trading Jimmy

Why trade both your backup QBs?

LoneWolf 12-21-2017 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13300171)
I’ve been busy since the Jimmy G trade to the 9ers and haven’t had a chance to post this but I’ve got time between patients here so let’s get into this.

Reading some stuff about it and with info trickling out, I think brady power played Bill into trading Jimmy. It was all set up for them to move Brady after the season, then they basically give Jimmy away for a 2nd rounder. He goes to SF and looks like Montana 2.0 and now Bill is running Brady’s trainer off.

Weird shot going on in New England?

Might want to slow your roll on the Montana 2.0 talk. He's thrown for 3 TDs and 2 Ints in his 3 starts and they beat the Bears, Texans, and Titans. Not exactly a murderers row of opponents he's faced thus far.

thegame214 12-21-2017 10:26 AM

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O.city 12-21-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 13300184)
Might want to slow your roll on the Montana 2.0 talk. He's thrown for 3 TDs and 2 Ints in his 3 starts and they beat the Bears, Texans, and Titans. Not exactly a murderers row of opponents he's faced thus far.

He’s also playing for a team that was one of the worst in the league though.

Just watching him it’s obvious the dude has the make up for it. It’s impressive

Amnorix 12-21-2017 10:30 AM

Sports talk radio is on fire with. Some facts -- Guerrero banned from the team sideline, no longer has an office at the complex, and can no longer travel on Patriots plane to away game, and alot of guesswork/speculation, including:

1. This is a tit-for-tat thing between Brady/BB. BB wanted Garropollo and wouldn't ahve trade him. Brady, through Kraft, forced the trade. Now BB wants revenge (you got rid of my guy, I'll get rid of yours). AMNORIX SEZ: This doesn't sound remotely like how BB operates. Even if he didn't want to get rid of Garropollo, he wouldn't typically engage in petty revenge like this.

2. Guerrero "doesn't play well with others" and has pissed off the regular Patriots training/medical staff. With nearly 20 Patriots players on the Guerrero program, his interference grew intolerable. AMNORIX SEZ: Sounds pretty plausible.

But yeah, rumor mill is going nuts in New England over all this. Potential problems in Patriots' paradise...

chiefzilla1501 12-21-2017 10:31 AM

Usually I say it's just spin. But firing the trainer was a power move by Bellichick to keep Brady in check. Usually those 2 guys are in lockstep so it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

thegame214 12-21-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 13300217)
Sports talk radio is on fire with. Some facts -- Guerrero banned from the team sideline, no longer has an office at the complex, and can no longer travel on Patriots plane to away game, and alot of guesswork/speculation, including:

1. This is a tit-for-tat thing between Brady/BB. BB wanted Garropollo and wouldn't ahve trade him. Brady, through Kraft, forced the trade. Now BB wants revenge (you got rid of my guy, I'll get rid of yours). AMNORIX SEZ: This doesn't sound remotely like how BB operates. Even if he didn't want to get rid of Garropollo, he wouldn't typically engage in petty revenge like this.

2. Guerrero "doesn't play well with others" and has pissed off the regular Patriots training/medical staff. With nearly 20 Patriots players on the Guerrero program, his interference grew intolerable. AMNORIX SEZ: Sounds pretty plausible.

But yeah, rumor mill is going nuts in New England over all this. Potential problems in Patriots' paradise...

You have the top seed and MVP on your team. We will take your "problems"

O.city 12-21-2017 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 13300217)
Sports talk radio is on fire with. Some facts -- Guerrero banned from the team sideline, no longer has an office at the complex, and can no longer travel on Patriots plane to away game, and alot of guesswork/speculation, including:

1. This is a tit-for-tat thing between Brady/BB. BB wanted Garropollo and wouldn't ahve trade him. Brady, through Kraft, forced the trade. Now BB wants revenge (you got rid of my guy, I'll get rid of yours). AMNORIX SEZ: This doesn't sound remotely like how BB operates. Even if he didn't want to get rid of Garropollo, he wouldn't typically engage in petty revenge like this.

2. Guerrero "doesn't play well with others" and has pissed off the regular Patriots training/medical staff. With nearly 20 Patriots players on the Guerrero program, his interference grew intolerable. AMNORIX SEZ: Sounds pretty plausible.

But yeah, rumor mill is going nuts in New England over all this. Potential problems in Patriots' paradise...

I don’t know what’s going on there.

It’s just a weird deal. The Jimmy g trade seems like he gave him away for peanuts.

Amnorix 12-21-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13300222)
You have the top seed and MVP on your team. We will take your "problems"


Oh, believe me, I'm not crying or anything. I'm alot more worried about the Pats front 7 than I am about Guerrero, or whether BB/Brady are in love or not. That's always been a pure business relationship anyway.

Amnorix 12-21-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13300224)
I don’t know what’s going on there.

It’s just a weird deal. The Jimmy g trade seems like he gave him away for peanuts.


Kraft may have forced it, who knows. But rumor (at the time) had BB willing to offer Jimmy G starter money to stay, but he wanted to ACTUALLY start, so he was going to force franchise tag, etc., so time had run out and the choice had to be made.

JoeyChuckles 12-21-2017 10:52 AM

Many quarterbacks look good for 8-16 games until defenses figure them out. We go through this every year with new quarterbacks, and everyone seems to forget. Garappolo may be different, but until he makes it into year 3, I won't believe it.

Simien
Kaepernick
Griffin III
Prescott (you can currently witness this return to the mean)
Mariota
Winston

notorious 12-21-2017 11:31 AM

This is a Smokescreen to distract from something else.


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