The Future of the Entertainment Industry
 

This thread is being started as a spin-off (see what i did there) from the NFL ratings decline thread in the Lounge. Trying to take advantage of Dane's knowledge of the industry, I asked what the future of movie-making is, given the shift in demographics and how younger generations are receiving content.

I also wondered whether movie theaters would go the way of the dodo, or more specifically Blockbuster, and my kids would be telling their kids about how they used to exist but now don't.

I only watch blockbusters at a theater. And with how many of them are turning into places that serve gourmet food, mixed drinks on recliners it could keep them in business a little longer than if they hadn't tried a transition. Network television is funny they're really trying to become basic cable with how they format their shows. And with how they cast as I only see promos while watching sports. I did catch an episode of Discovery. The opening titles reminded me of a cross between season one of True Detective, and Westworld.

Netflix is interesting as it seems they their competitors have tried to box them out, but it didn't work. I wonder how long they can outbid everyone for the shows that they do steal away from other channels. A lot of their material is available for rent on other forums. Amazon has the inside edge with renting what doesn't come with a membership, offering music, and being propped up by an online retailer the likes that hasn't been seen yet.

It's interesting to watch how it all has changed. And how it continues to change so quickly. And how much it will still be changing. Just in the networks with being so mammoth it'll be interesting to see how long they move so slowly, or if they adapt better eventually. I'm not sure how long game shows, reality shows, cop drama, court drama, fire and rescue drama, and the like can sustain them

I couldn't tell you the last time I went to see a movie in a theater. The last one that I definitely remember is "The Departed". I know there's been another since then because I remember leaving our current residence to go see it (and we've only been in this place 6 years).....but I can't for the life of me remember what movie it was.


I usually grab them off Red Box.
Netflix pretty much blows in terms of recent theater movies, IMO. but good for documentaries, comedy specials, shows, Netflix Originals etc.

we used to have all the movie channels on our DTV, but they too began to suck out loud. 2 years ago we downgraded to only HBO, and we're thinking of dropping that as well. Same old movies; never seems like there's anything 'new' per se. I'm sure there are, it just doesn't seem like it.

I won't say I'll never go to a theater again, but man....I haven't seen anything advertised that made me think "man, I gotta go see this". Sad. I used to love going - but price vs. quality of movie has been out of whack for me for quite a while.

The major studios have discussed a "Video On Demand" service that would allow people to see newly released feature films within weeks of the initial release but decided against it.

While ticket sales were down 6% from 2016, it can partially be due to the fact that 2017 didn't offer any blockbuster films, outside of The Last Jedi (which came in way short of expectations). Next year should be markedly better, with Solo, Avengers, Ant-Man & Wasp, etc.

But keep in mind, Box Office revenues were still $11.1 billion dollars, and that doesn't include the billions of dollars generated by the theater chains and exhibitors.

Overall box office attendance peaked in 2002, so this isn't a brand new trend. But as theaters continue to upgrade their sound systems, seating and concessions (more and more are serving alcohol, have built-in restaurants, pre-sale seats and more), nothing can truly replace the movie theater experience.

There is a thread on this, but consider getting moviepass. Drop HBO and use that money to get two moviepasses. It should be nearly the exact same cost overall. You can see a movie a day for $9 a month. It is fantastic. I've been going to the theater to watch films I normally wouldn't spend money on and to watch rereleases of older films like Jaws or Alien. You can use moviepass and still get rewards on your theater's loyalty program as well, which means every couple of films you see, you get some free popcorn and drinks.

We've had those types of accomodations for more than 15 years in Hollywood.

This is false. Due to FCC regulations, Over-The-Air broadcast networks will never compete with cable or streaming services due to content, violence, sex and language restrictions.

That's because CBS has created their own streaming service, which isn't regulated like OTA broadcast networks by the FCC. All of the CBS All Access programming is available via Netflix X-US.

Steal away? Netflix licenses content that they don't create from the Original Content Creator/owners of the IP.

The Netflix "End Game" is create enough original content to lure subscribers and not so much about licensing other big name content. As of 2019, all of the Disney content moves to Disney's new streaming service.

I don't even understand what you're stating here.

LMAO

Are you kidding me? Reality TV is going NO WHERE. As for typical Broadcast Network fare, networks will continue to air those types of shows as long as there's a huge audience (i.e., Advertising dollars).

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thanks mang. I need to look into it.

Already a (short) thread here about it...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=313921

Part of it is Trump effect. Hollywood and sports have done as great job of tuning out half of their fanbase because of the nonstop anti trump, anti conservative rhetoric.

Other than a few shows, Chiefs games or KU bball games, I dont watch TV anymore, partially in part due to the above. ESPN has become unwatchable, so has comedy central other than South Park, none of the network shows have anything to offer.

I like watching documentaries on YouTube, Smithsonian channels...maybe im showing my older age now. In terms of movies, Ill only see the major blockbusters, MCU, Star Wars, DC etc...or if its a war movie like Dunkirk, Darkest Hour etc. Movies have just gotten too expensive now. People are tired of the Hollywood crap, movies are trash, about 4 or 5 studios own everything now.

LMAO

How can someone be educated yet so stupid?

$11.1 billion dollars in box office ticket sales says otherwise.

I absolutely love the theater experience. I only go to the good theaters though. Reclining seats, big screens, great sound etc....

Unfortunately, yes I see it die if out eventually. Myself I only go watch blockbusters. The middle tier ‘adult movies’ feel like they are being phased out or relegated to cable and streaming services


It feels like everything is going to get consolidated at some point. Basically just Disney, Netflix and Amazon

A $20 billion dollar+ industry isn't going to die any time soon, if ever.

Nothing can replace the theater experience and with movies like the new Avatar series being available in glasses-free 3D, more people will flock to the theaters than ever before.

The Top 33 movies of 2017 earned $100 million dollars or more. I don't know if that meets your personal "blockbuster" threshold but there's no way those films would have earned that kind of money (or have been made) if they were distributed on Netflix, Hulu or Amazon.

This is because those movies don't earn at the box office. They eat up theater space and don't result in huge concession sales, either.

Well, that's definitely not happening.

Universal, Sony and Warner Brothers all have excellent distribution networks and more and more production companies are popping up each year thanks to Private Equity firms investing in film. The Chinese are investing in Hollywood films, too.

Interesting you say that. I feel like Netflix tried to create a Blockbuster type film with Bright. They obviously touted it as a success but I feel like it wouldn’t have been a success in theaters.

They did and failed.

The latest Cloverfield film is another example of a film that would have utterly failed at the box office.

International box office is important in a way it never was previously for movies.

Apple recently lost a bidding war on a new JJ Abrams series. It's sort of interesting to see all of these companies jumping into the content creation role. Netflix has really thrown down the money for top producers recently.