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BigRichard 06-17-2019 06:22 PM

Forming your own LLC and doing contract work
 
I put in my resignation late last week. It was suggested today I might be able to do some contract work for them remotely which has me intrigued. Who on CP has formed their own LLC and done some contract work. Any suggestions on how to handle it? Would you go some other route?

displacedinMN 06-17-2019 06:31 PM

I had a lawyer do an LLC. It is basically a shell corporation for liability reasons. It costs 40 bucks a year to reaffirm it with the state. I do not remember the original cost because it was done when I did the will/trust.

You may be able to do an easy LLC with Legalzoom. Or with a lawyer friend.

MahiMike 06-17-2019 06:39 PM

LLC or S Corp. Talk to an accountant. S Corp saves a ton on tax write-offs.

Kiimo 06-17-2019 06:47 PM

I created an LLC in March. I would highly encourage you to use LegalZoom as I did.

Get the legal addition and the compliance addition. Skip the accounting unless you bad with the spreadem sheets.

California charges all LLCs 800 smackers almost immediately so thank your lucky stars you don't live here.

Then again I'm spending the 4th on a boat watching the fireworks over the Pacific so I guess you get what you pay for.

LiveSteam 06-17-2019 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14312062)
LLC or S Corp. Talk to an accountant. S Corp saves a ton on tax write-offs.

This

KCUnited 06-17-2019 06:58 PM

Ya gotta look out for number one and try not to step in spreadem sheets.

BigRichard 06-17-2019 07:08 PM

We may be moving states fairly soon and it sounds like the LLC you have to reregister in your new state. Do you know if you have to do that with the S Corp?

Bugeater 06-17-2019 07:30 PM

You still haven't left Omaha?

kccrow 06-17-2019 07:34 PM

Yeah done it.

LLC or S-Corp doesn't matter really, still register in the State... You have to file Articles of Incorporation with the State for a S-Corp.

S-Corp just, really, declares pass-through taxation to the members rather than being taxed as a C-Corp. A LLC can actually choose to be taxed as an S-Corp.

No real reason to be an S-Corp unless you intend to pay yourself a salary from the earnings of the business and expect there to be additional net income. All you really need is to file as an LLC to help protect your personal assets, which both do. Now, if you do elect S-Corp status as an LLC, you can reap the benefits of less Payroll Tax and not having so much paperwork for a C-Corp and everything functions pretty much the same.

Then, get insurance. General Liability, Errors and Omissions, and Data Breach should be of primary importance if you're doing consulting and working with another company's data and providing them suggestions.

LiveSteam 06-17-2019 07:38 PM

What do you do for a living?

BigRichard 06-17-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14312126)
You still haven't left Omaha?

Nope, I had kind of been waiting on the perfect job to make the move. I think I just found it. Work from home and work from anywhere in the US.

BigRichard 06-17-2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 14312142)
What do you do for a living?

Well, I am currently doing healthcare analytics/heathcare IT but I am doing a slight change in my direction as I am still in healthcare doing "IT stuff" but it really isn't analytics.

LiveSteam 06-17-2019 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 14312162)
Nope, I had kind of been waiting on the perfect job to make the move. I think I just found it. Work from home and work from anywhere in the US.

Oh hell yes.. If you have a chance to pull that off. Get after it.

Buehler445 06-17-2019 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 14312051)
I had a lawyer do an LLC. It is basically a shell corporation for liability reasons. It costs 40 bucks a year to reaffirm it with the state. I do not remember the original cost because it was done when I did the will/trust.

You may be able to do an easy LLC with Legalzoom. Or with a lawyer friend.

There is no initial cost. In Kansas anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14312062)
LLC or S Corp. Talk to an accountant. S Corp saves a ton on tax write-offs.

This is not correct. All business expenses are deductible with either entity. S Corps are pass through income rather than self employment, but you have to pay yourself a reasonable wage. See Crow's comments.

Definitely talk to an accountant. There will be a return to file, plus you have to keep a set of books, so whatever you do make sure they're on board.

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14312075)
I created an LLC in March. I would highly encourage you to use LegalZoom as I did.

Get the legal addition and the compliance addition. Skip the accounting unless you bad with the spreadem sheets.

California charges all LLCs 800 smackers almost immediately so thank your lucky stars you don't live here.

Then again I'm spending the 4th on a boat watching the fireworks over the Pacific so I guess you get what you pay for.

Really, you don't need to. In Kansas you just have to apply through the SOS website and fill it out. If it's a single member LLC, you won't need an operating agreement per se. If you have a partnership definitely see an attorney so either party gets ****ed.

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 14312096)
We may be moving states fairly soon and it sounds like the LLC you have to reregister in your new state. Do you know if you have to do that with the S Corp?

Don't think so, you just have to file the return in the state that it is formed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14312136)
Yeah done it.

LLC or S-Corp doesn't matter really, still register in the State... You have to file Articles of Incorporation with the State for a S-Corp.

S-Corp just, really, declares pass-through taxation to the members rather than being taxed as a C-Corp. A LLC can actually choose to be taxed as an S-Corp.

No real reason to be an S-Corp unless you intend to pay yourself a salary from the earnings of the business and expect there to be additional net income. All you really need is to file as an LLC to help protect your personal assets, which both do. Now, if you do elect S-Corp status as an LLC, you can reap the benefits of less Payroll Tax and not having so much paperwork for a C-Corp and everything functions pretty much the same.

Then, get insurance. General Liability, Errors and Omissions, and Data Breach should be of primary importance if you're doing consulting and working with another company's data and providing them suggestions.

The bolded is the crux of the issue. And the way I try to explain it to people is if you want to do anything that are balance sheet activities, purchase assets, service debt, retain earnings, build operating capital, all don't hit the income statement (and tax return), that makes it make sense for an S-Corp.

I don't know the rules if it is a single member LLC, it may not be able to be taxed as an S-Corp. Talk to your accountant.

I'd do it. For me, it made me start treating my business as a business and made me a better businessman. Not that I didn't know what I was doing on the business side of things, but having it separated forced me to do a little bit of it and made it far easier for the rest of it.

Buehler445 06-17-2019 08:15 PM

You didn't say, but if you're going to quit your job and do this instead, DEFINITELY do your due diligence. Then if you do it, save up a pile of money.

I've seen several fools do it and they blow through every dollar of revenue then something unexpected, like, "WHAAA I owe taxes? HERP DERP" and then they struggle.

Plus if you're going to do it, get yourself a solid understanding of your expense. Because while it is deductible, it isn't free. Know your expenses.


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