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the Talking Can 09-11-2004 04:00 PM

Not as important as typewriters, but in Afghanistan
the war continues...I realize this is a trivial issue compared to the forged Niger Yellow Cake documents....oops, wrong forgeries....I mean, compared to Dan Rather's toupee, but here is the article anyways...not that enlightened voters would use such nonsense to judge someone's rather inept foreign policies...I myself never liked IBM typewriters:

$999 for the new IBM Selective Outrage

Official: Bin Laden Issues Attack Orders
U.S. General Tells AP That Osama Bin Laden, Al-Zawahri Likely Giving Orders for al-Qaida Attacks

The Associated Press

BAGRAM, Afghanistan Sept. 11, 2004 Three years after the Sept. 11 suicide hijackings, the military does not have a fix on the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and his top deputy, but they are believed to still be issuing the orders for al-Qaida attacks, a top American commander told The Associated Press on Saturday.

Maj. Gen. Eric Olson also said that an al-Qaida linked group was suspected of being behind a deadly car bombing at a U.S. security firm in the Afghan capital last month. He said it was a suicide attack.

"There are senior leaders of al-Qaida that are working through operatives in Afghanistan," Olson said in an interview. "They are involved in planning and in some cases directing attacks inside of Afghanistan."

Olson, the operational commander of U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan, said the military did not know where bin Laden or al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri are located. But the involvement of well-trained foreign fighters in attacks near the Pakistani border convinced him that the fugitive leaders were pulling the strings.

"What we see are their techniques and their tactics here in Afghanistan, so I think it is reasonable to assume that the senior leaders are involved in directing those operations," he said.

Olson, a native of New York City, spoke to the AP after a ceremony at the main American base north of Kabul to mark the anniversary of the 2001 terrorist attacks.

About 300 soldiers from the 18,000-strong coalition force gathered in a dusty tent to hear readings from the Bible and the Quran, patriotic songs and speeches reminding them of their mission.

Several wept as they watched videos of how the hijacked jetliners felled the World Trade Center towers in New York and devastated a wing of the Pentagon.

"We're here to prevent future ceremonies, future Sept. 11s," said Maj. Andy Preston, an infantryman from Edmond, Okla., who was working at the Pentagon when it was hit.

Operation Enduring Freedom quickly ousted the government of the hardline Taliban movement and scattered the al-Qaida fighters and leaders it had harbored.

Still, the Taliban has regrouped and sustained an insurgency across the south and east of the country, which Olson said was supported also by foreign fighters.

Olson said some militants attacking U.S. forces along the Pakistani border with mortars and rockets expertly adjust their aim betraying a high level of training not commonly seen among Taliban fighters.

Arabs, Saudis and Yemenis were among fighters recently detected in parts of southern Kandahar province as well as the former al-Qaida stronghold of Khost, he said.

An Aug. 26 car bomb which killed about 10 people, including three Americans, at the office of a firm providing bodyguards for President Hamid Karzai was the work of a suicide attacker, Olson said.

"We've even tied it to a group that has ties to al-Qaida. It could be a splinter group of some sort," he said.

The group had members in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, Olson said, but he declined to name it.

Pakistan has reacted angrily to accusations from Afghan and American officials that it is not doing enough to prevent cross-border attacks, also by followers of renegade Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.

The Pakistani army has carried out a string of bloody raids, including operations this week it said killed some 60 suspected fighters mostly foreigners in a tribal region believed to be a possible hide-out for bin Laden.

Olson praised the "very successful" Pakistani operations, but acknowledged that only political and economic developments in Afghanistan could defeat the insurgency in Afghanistan.

American and Afghan officials have predicted that militant attacks which have already killed aid workers and government officials as well as hundreds of combatants this year will intensify with the approach of Oct. 9 presidential elections.

"I don't think we're close at all" to defeating the insurgents, Olson said, but insisted that organizing a successful vote could convince many opponents to give up the fight.

He said six key Hekmatyar allies and a group of senior Taliban had recently indicated their willingness to "come over" to the government side a goal long-sought by Karzai.

Observers say a successful vote, which Karzai is expected to win, could help cement the country's painstaking political and economic recovery after more than two decades of war.

"That makes a very powerful statement," said Olson. "They'll want to join rather than fight."

Michael Michigan 09-11-2004 04:03 PM

Maybe Rather should have tried this on 60 Minutes II.

the Talking Can 09-11-2004 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Michigan
Maybe Rather should have tried this on 60 Minutes II.

I think Rather should be put down.

srvy 09-11-2004 05:32 PM

We also never knew whereabouts or caught Milosavich untill he decided to try his luck with libby lawyers and legal system. And the trial is still going on no end in site.

WilliamTheIrish 09-11-2004 06:17 PM

At least thisis an article that I can get really pissed off about and mean it.

WilliamTheIrish 09-11-2004 06:32 PM

On a lighter note, bin Laden's whereabouts are now becoming akin to sightings of Elvis.

WilliamTheIrish 09-11-2004 07:06 PM

Can, have you read this one?

Al Qa'eda terrorists 'plan to turn tanker into a floating bomb'

Fanatics from the Islamic terror faction blamed for last week's suicide attack on the Australian embassy in Indonesia are planning to hijack an oil tanker or freighter and turn it into a floating bomb, The Telegraph has learned.

United States intelligence has passed on warnings about the plot to launch an attack in the region's busy shipping lanes to several countries, including Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia. They acted after intercepting communications between activists from Jemaah Islamiah (JI), a network linked to al Qa'eda.

Ayman Al-Zawahiri
The terrorists have been discussing plans to seize a vessel using local pirates. The hijacked ship would be wired with explosives and then directed at other vessels, sailed towards a port or used to threaten the narrow and congested sea routes around Indonesia.

Strong indications that Islamic extremists are planning a new wave of bloody attacks against Western targets also emerged in Pakistan where detained militants revealed that the latest al Qa'eda video tape was intended to be a trigger for fresh atrocities.

Prisoners captured in recent weeks have told their interrogators that last week's taped message from Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's deputy, was a signal for al Qa'eda cells that were already on standby.

"We were told that a new tape either carrying bin Laden or his deputy's message was on its way, and that it was intended to trigger a major terror attack," a senior Pakistani intelligence official told The Telegraph. "The cadres linked to the terror network were told to carry out an attack once this video is released."

In the tape, Al-Zawahiri predicted America's defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq. Security was further tightened at foreign embassies in Pakistan after its release just two days before yesterday's third anniversary of the September 11 attacks. Pakistani officials investigating the activities of Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan, the al Qa'eda computer expert believed to have been co-ordinating a plot to bomb Heathrow airport, have recovered further information from the arrested man's computer.

Khan and other militants had collected detailed lists of local and international staff of American and British missions working in Pakistan and senior officials in the war on terrorism. The information included home addresses, daily travel routines and even names of schools attended by the children of foreigners under surveillance.

In Indonesia, Australia's top policeman said yesterday that the militants behind the embassy attack on Thursday were believed to have deployed a second team of suicide bombers in Jakarta.

"There's further intelligence in the last 24 to 48 hours of a second group active in the area," said Mick Keelty, the Federal Police Commissioner, who flew to Jakarta to investigate the blast that killed nine Indonesians and injured 182.

Police released video recordings of the blast from two security cameras yesterday. They showed a van passing on its way to the embassy before blowing apart in a flash of smoke and debris, shaking trees and buildings before the image went blurry.

The attack indicated that JI remains a lethal force, despite the arrest of more than 200 activists across south-east Asia, including Hambali, its alleged mastermind, who was seized in Thailand last year.

Azahari Husin, a British-educated explosives expert who is believed to have made the devices that blew up a Bali disco in 2002, killing more than 200 people, and the Marriott hotel in Jakarta last August, has emerged as the organisation's most wanted man.

Indonesian police said yesterday that he had been recruiting members in recent weeks in Java, the biggest island in the world's most populous Muslim country, as JI regained strength following the arrests.

Husin, a Malaysian who completed a engineering doctorate at Reading University in 1990 and later trained at al Qa'eda camps in Afghanistan, is believed to have only recently moved out of a rented house in north-west Jakarta.

Following a tip-off after Thursday's attack, investigators raided the abandoned home and discovered traces of TNT explosives and sulphur, matching residue found at the embassy bomb site.

The rejuvenation of JI will heighten concerns in Australia that the country could face terrorist attacks on its soil ahead of parliamentary elections on October 9. John Howard, the conservative prime minister, is a strong backer of President George W Bush's war on terror and 850 Australian troops are serving in Iraq.

A purported claim of responsibility for the Jakarta attack was made by JI in a statement on the internet that threatened Australia with more attacks if it did not withdraw its troops from Iraq.

10 September 2004: Nine killed by Australian embassy bomb
18 August 2003: Nine held over hotel suicide bombing
14 October 2002: 182 dead in club bombing

the Talking Can 09-11-2004 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
On a lighter note, bin Laden's whereabouts are now becoming akin to sightings of Elvis.

that is funny and true....he will be Elvis-like in the Middle East for a long time

the Talking Can 09-11-2004 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
Can, have you read this one?

Al Qa'eda terrorists 'plan to turn tanker into a floating bomb'

I'll attempt to keep my comments non-partisan...I've never understood why we haven't been more proactive in Indonesia...home of the madrassas...home of more terror cells than Iraq could dream is well known (testified to in open session before congressional panel, by Israeli and American agents) that Saudia Arabia has long funded the madrassass (sp?) in that region....we've done next to nothing, really, to address what is, imho, the root cause...Australia should be scared shitless, the signs are pretty loud and clear....[editorial]until our president or any high ranking American official loudly, publically, repeatedly calls Saudia Arabia to account I will continue to believe that our "war" on terror is inept and comprimised[/editorial]

We should have secured Afghanistan..but we didn't...and we should have put a gun to Saudia Arabia's head...but we didn't ( a hanging offense)...and we should be stomping all over Indonesia...but we aren't....and I might as well vote for a dead chicken because there is nothing left Bush can **** up that will keep him from being re-elected....sorry, I tried to keep it non-partisan, but I failed...I really feel as if I'm living in Bizzaro America...

anyways, thanks for article....we need to remember that the next attack is always going to happen where we least expect it, they are that smart...

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