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Donger 09-13-2004 05:46 PM

Florida OK's Nader's Name on Election Ballot
 
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/413583|top|09-13-2004::18:47|reuters.html

MIAMI (Reuters) - Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader's name can appear on Florida ballots for the election, despite a court order to the contrary, Florida's elections chief told officials on Monday in a move that could help President Bush in the key swing state.

The Florida Democratic Party reacted with outrage, calling the move "blatant partisan maneuvering" by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's younger brother, and vowed to fight it.

In a memo to Florida's 67 county supervisors of elections, Division of Elections director Dawn Roberts said the uncertainty of Hurricane Ivan, which could hit parts of the state by week's end, forced her to act.

The action came in an ongoing legal battle over whether Nader should be allowed on the Florida ballot as the Reform Party candidate.

Nader, an independent nominated by the Reform Party, was a presidential candidate in 2000 when Bush won Florida, and the White House, by 537 votes over then-Vice President Al Gore. Analysts said most of the nearly 98,000 votes Nader got in Florida would have gone to Gore had Nader not been on the ballot.

Florida Circuit Court Judge Kevin Davey issued a temporary injunction last week preventing the state from putting Nader on the 2004 ballot, siding with a Democratic challenge that the Reform Party did not qualify as a national party under state law.

A hearing on a permanent injunction is scheduled for Wednesday. But Roberts said Hurricane Ivan, which is headed for Florida's Gulf coast, had raised "a substantial question as to when such a hearing" will be held.

'PARTISAN MANEUVERING'

As a result, she said, Florida's Department of State had filed an appeal against the temporary injunction. The appeal application automatically lifts the injunction, allowing the counties to put Nader's name on overseas absentee ballots, which must be mailed by Saturday.

"I'm in disbelief," said Scott Maddox, chairman of the Florida Democratic Party. "This is blatant partisan maneuvering on the part of Jeb Bush to give his brother a leg up on election day."

"They are trying to get ballots printed with Nader's name on them," said Maddox. "I am astounded that Jeb Bush is willing to defy the judiciary to help his brother."

Maddox said if Nader drew votes away from any candidate it would be Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

Gov. Bush said he agreed with Roberts' decision.

"It's up to the judge to determine, based on the law, whether Nader should be on the ballot or not," Bush said. "But while that process goes on, we cannot put ourselves in the position where the ministerial role of the supervisors cannot be fulfilled."

Maddox noted that Tallahassee, the state capital where Davey sits, is not expected to be directly hit by the hurricane. He said the circuit court could hear the case as scheduled on Wednesday and rule immediately.

In addition, the case is before the Florida Supreme Court, which could also rule at any time, he said.

Thig Lyfe 09-13-2004 06:01 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Donger 09-13-2004 06:07 PM

"This is blatant partisan maneuvering on the part of Jeb Bush to give his brother a leg up on election day."

I don't know if it is or isn't, but I'm positive that the injunction was blatantly partisan.

WoodDraw 09-13-2004 06:18 PM

This does seem a little sketchy. The uncertainty of Hurricane Ivan forced her to act? That's pretty weak. Tallahassee isn't set to get hit hard and it wouldn't be too hard to push back the hearing.

I'm all for 3rd party canidates getting on the ballot though even if the whole system is horribly flawed. The fact that the people arueing over this are the Democrats and Republics and not the Reform Party just further shows that.

ENDelt260 09-13-2004 06:19 PM

Well, that oughta confuse the hell out of those retards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Scooby Doo take Florida.

Donger 09-13-2004 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Well, that oughta confuse the hell out of those retards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Scooby Doo take Florida.

ROFL

Warrior5 09-13-2004 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Well, that oughta confuse the hell out of those retards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Scooby Doo take Florida.

rep.

Thig Lyfe 09-13-2004 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Well, that oughta confuse the hell out of those retards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Scooby Doo take Florida.

Rorge Rubbleyou Roosh or Rohn Rerry?

ROOBY DOOBY DOO!

KCWolfman 09-13-2004 07:43 PM

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The Florida Democratic Party reacted with outrage, calling the move "blatant partisan maneuvering" by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's younger brother, and vowed to fight it.
They said while partisanly attempting to block an additional choice from the voters they supposedly represent.

RINGLEADER 09-13-2004 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger
"This is blatant partisan maneuvering on the part of Jeb Bush to give his brother a leg up on election day."

I don't know if it is or isn't, but I'm positive that the injunction was blatantly partisan.


The Democratic Party Leadership are a bunch of whiners. They're going into every state trying to prevent Nader from appearing on the ballot yet when they lose in their efforts to stop every (non-Democratic) vote from counting they bitch about it being a partisan attack.

Their victimhood knows no bounds...

whoman69 09-13-2004 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger
"This is blatant partisan maneuvering on the part of Jeb Bush to give his brother a leg up on election day."

I don't know if it is or isn't, but I'm positive that the injunction was blatantly partisan.

You can't have it both ways. Republicans claim that Catherine Harris acted entirely with the law in 2000 but when asked to comply with the law now, they say the law doesn't matter.

Stinger 09-13-2004 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/413583|top|09-13-2004::18:47|reuters.html

"I'm in disbelief," said Scott Maddox, chairman of the Florida Democratic Party. "This is blatant partisan maneuvering on the part of Jeb Bush to give his brother a leg up on election day."

"They are trying to get ballots printed with Nader's name on them," said Maddox. "I am astounded that Jeb Bush is willing to defy the judiciary to help his brother."

You know what Irony this would have been if would have said this on the steps of the Florida Sureme Court after the 2000 election debacle.

Cochise 09-13-2004 08:28 PM

Look at them trying to disenfranchise voters.

whoman69 09-13-2004 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER
The Democratic Party Leadership are a bunch of whiners. They're going into every state trying to prevent Nader from appearing on the ballot yet when they lose in their efforts to stop every (non-Democratic) vote from counting they bitch about it being a partisan attack.

Their victimhood knows no bounds...

Baloney. Most of the efforts to get Nader on the ballot have been Republican efforts. He could not win the nomination for his own party and had to crawl into the back door for a party that has zero in common with their candidate. In AZ it was proven that signatures of petition for him were fraudulent. A Republican rally in OR was put together to get Nader on the ballot. The only ones that want him on the ballot are Republicans. Ask Hoover, he worked in IA to get Nader on the ballot because he knows that it will cost Kerry votes. If his own party can't get him on the ballot, he doesn't belong there.
Don't get all high and mighty about this being non-partisan. As strongly as Democrats are going into these states to prove Nader doesn't belong on the ballot, Republicans are going just as hard to get him on the ballot. Shouldn't the Reform Party being doing that?

ENDelt260 09-13-2004 08:50 PM

Reform Party? I thought Nader was running as an Independent this go round. When the hell did he hook up with the Reform Party?


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