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Old 02-19-2014, 03:24 PM   #59
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NASA and NOAA are dependent on the government for funding. With funding comes influence. It's just the nature of the beast.
Sure, but under the Bush Administration, these scientists were complaining that the pressure was coming in the OTHER direction -- telling them to shut up about, downplay, and/or simply NOT talk about climate change. So who, exactly, is the one trying to create that "myth" and/or say that it's humans causing it?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040502150.html

http://www.theguardian.com/environme....frontpagenews

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/sc...anted=all&_r=0

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I agree to not change policy when all the data isn't in. So why have they been doing exactly that?
If you don't see the 4th amendment ramifications, perhaps it's your cabesa in the sand.
I think because enough scientists with enough different backgrounds and sources of income have been agreeing that climate change exists, and that it's causes are very likely to be human in origin, or at least in large part human in origin.

I don't really see this as a Fourth Amendment issue.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
So, what....people are having their assets "seized" (perhaps only in the prevented from using sense, which can also be a form of seizure) because they produce too much greenhouse gases or something? Is that the argument?
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