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Originally Posted by jd1020
I haven't raided in wow since Burning Crusade, dabbed a bit in WotLK when it came out but lost interest very early. But when I was in a raiding guild in BC I was waaaaaaaay behind my guilds progression and as soon as I hit 70 they had me raiding literally right when I dinged. Still in green spell/dmg gear from the mid 60's on my pally, we killed Gruul (server first), before they nerfed the shit out of him (not many guilds actually killed him prenerf). It wasn't too long after that we killed Magtheridon (2nd on server).
There is nothing challenging about raiding in WoW. Once you figure out the sequence of the fight its all grade school. The reason so few people have cleared the current content is because WoW has switched to a more casual focus. Clearing current content requires large amounts of time farming materials for potions and other random things. The overwhelming majority of WoW players don't have the interest in doing that shit. They'll play their 10 arena matches a week and be happy.
Take this list for what you may but here's the top 10 raid boss world firsts from date of access:
#1 Ouro - 87 days from the Twin Emperors' death. (1 day from C'thun's death) 26th April 2006.
#2 C'thun - 86 days from the Twin Emperors' death. 25th April 2006.
#3 Yogg-Saron, Alone in the Darkness - 83 days from General Vezax's death. (39 days from STARS' previous Ulduar kill) 7th July 2009
#4 tied Chromaggus - 74 days from Ebonroc's death. 25th September 2005.
#4 tied Ragnaros - 74 days from Majordomo Executus' death. 25th April 2005.
#6 High Astromancer Solarian - 59 days from Magtheridon's death. (24 days from Death Wish's previous tier 5 kill) 24th April 2007
#7 The Four Horsemen - 56 days from Gothik's death to D&T's kill. August 25th 2006
#8 Al'ar - 48 days from Magtheridon's death. 13th April 2007
#9 Heroic The Lich King - 42 Days from Heroic Putricide's death (first pull). March 26th 2010
#10 Heroic Al'Akir - 38 days from being unlocked. (36 days from Heroic Conclave of Wind's death) January 22nd 2011.
5 from vanilla
2 from BC
2 from WotLK
1 from Cataclysm
There's only 1 boss in the top 30 from MoP.
I remember when the first Asian guild killed Illidan... Their gear was mostly made up of vanilla raid gear. Their main tanks were still using TF's. The game is incredibly easy but takes vast amounts of time and dedication to playing 4 or 5 hours every night to be current on content. |
BC mechanics are a far cry from MoP mechanics. It's not really comparable. There is a lot more movement involved and the bosses have more abilities in general. And in Ranked PvP, everyone who's contending has the same ilvl. It only takes but a month or two to fully gear up. If you can't take the time to get the same gear then you're probably not a top 1% player. The heart of an MMO is progression. PvP would be dead without a sense of progression, even in the form of gear.
But i do agree though, it is just a pattern. Its not that difficult if you dedicate enough time to it anyone can learn it.
But i think it's silly to call a game too easy when the majority of the players who play it can't complete the content. It's not just time, there is a good amount of skill involved. If you spend enough time on something, you'll get good at it. But i've raided with enough players to see that it is challenging for a lot of people.