Originally Posted by kccrow
I'd be extremely surprised if either Van Noy or Shazier go in the 1st round. Neither deserve to. Both are small, athletic, 4-3 OLBs in my opinion. If my head was on the line, I'd take Shazier every day of the week over Van Noy. Better at shedding, better quickness, far more explosive, stronger, better tackler, makes more plays behind the LOS, better in coverage, better at everything, and more experience against far better competition every day. My 2 centavos.
Not a chance he's better in coverage than Van Noy. No way, no how.
And Van Noy is exceptional at making plays behind the line of scrimmage.
Shazier takes a lot (and I mean A LOT) of bad angles, shows marginal fundamentals and doesn't seem to have ultra high level instincts. I think he's a product of his athleticism at the college level versus football acumen, and, like I said, I believe that LaRon Landry/Taylor Mays is his upside. He's a tweener that might not have a position at the next level, much like Landry and Mays. He's not going to be Brian Urlacher.
Van Noy is second to Jake Matthews in terms of football instincts and fundamentals in this draft IMO. Exceptionally smooth, plays smart and understands the game. He's also very fast on the field. He's bigger, taller with more room on his frame than Shazier. (Van Noy was a lean 245 lbs. at 6'3" at the combine.)
It's fun to watch the highlights of Shazier as he's ferocious going after guys, but if you watch the whole game, he whiffs just as many times as he lays into guys. Van Noy never whiffs.
If you want recent comparisons in terms of measurables, combine results and on the field productivity, Van Noy is very similar to Luke Kuechly and Shazier is very similar to Daryl Washington.