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Old 03-22-2014, 10:32 AM   #656
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Originally Posted by Simply Red View Post
I haven't even been taking creatine - let's put it out on the table here. Is this really all that needed?

I'm asking not challenging. So don't 'Do you even lift ' me, in this case.
Well all that's "natural" that's needed?....Definitely the only things proven to work are whey and creatine. Creatine is cheap as shit and works, so you should be taking it year round. Stimulants of your choice pre-workout if you choose (yes I use preworkouts). Test boosters are pretty worthless.

Other options are real Test if you choose that route. I've never used it, however.
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