[ChiefsOne]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

World record for a natural single pull with equipment (double ply suits, belts, wraps, is 760 in the Open 242 lbs., 35-39 year age class.

Raw natural pull record for same class is 605 lbs.

You're boy in the air force needs to document his shit, as the police/fire/military natural record in the dead is 535 lbs. in the 198 lb. class. (Raw lift is 490 lbs.)

http://www.wnpf.net/wnpf/home.jsp

If it's the nothing you say it is, then why do it at all? Why spend the money on it, go through the injections (as you have advocated earlier), etc.? Why have to go through the process of faking down your test levels in order to get doctors prescriptions for it if it does nothing?

That's hard to believe. I do have video and photo proof of my kids doing 500 at 17 weighing 195.