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Old 07-01-2015, 02:32 PM   #2385
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You've allowed Dan and Al to convince you that Grichuk's is a world class sprinter and that's simply not the case. Grichuk is an above average runner with slightly above average speed for a CFer. That's it. He's not a gold glove CFer.
I get to listen to the Cardinals broadcast in only about 20% of the games I watch per year. So I doubt that. I can see. He has better speed than Jay.
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No, Grichuk is not substantially better at tracking down fly balls than Jay is. He gets in on them better, Jay goes back on them better. Grichuk's lateral range is actually probably about the same as Jay's because Jay actually does take a better path to the ball. Grichuk has a better arm than Jay but of the 5 tools, arm is easily the least important. I'm not going to base a decision on a guys throwing arm. That's a bonus.T
We will just agree to disagree on this part.
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The fact that you're buying guys that say 'laying off balls in the dirt' is something you can just teach the guy shows me you're just hearing what you want to hear. T.
I was just saying they are saying that it can be learned. I have no clue if the know what the hell they are talking about. Just because they are ex-players doesn't mean they are great evaluators of talent.
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This is who Randal Grichik is offensively - he's a mad hacker that swings hard in case he hits it. That's who he'll always be. The list of guys that suddenly found religion as it relates to strike zone discipline is INCREDIBLY small. It doesn't happen. The guy has a sub 5 BB rate, a K rate of 30% and a BABIP of .370 - I don't know what to tell you if you can't see the myriad of problems that those figures present.
I agree. And it still makes him better than Jay.
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Bourjos brings an all-world glove to CF; a guy that can change the way your pitchers approach games. His skill set is simply something I value a great deal.
So Bourjas gets a Dal Maxwell exception?
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I'm not hard on Grichuk .
Agree to disagree on this point also.
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