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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
I couldn't give a single **** about 'every team's fans'. I don't speak for them and I damn sure won't be saddled with their idiocy. I don't universally hate my teams managers. I'm a fan of Reid, was a fan of Quenville, can't stand Byron Scott but actually like D'Antoni when everyone else hated him. I'm a LaRussa fan.
Stop with this 'all fans hate their managers' bullshit. It's Hootie garbage that doesn't actually mean anything. I personally do not hate all my team's head coaches/managers. This particular manager, on the other hand, is an addle-bthrained ****ing half-wit.
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I don't post or think like Hootie. Come on man, no one confuses my and Hooties posting style or beliefs. On this issue we are in general agreement, fans in general don't like their managers and severely disagree with something they are doing. You may blow me away with stat knowledge (which I appreciate from you and Hamas, I've learned a lot)and forgot more about baseball than I know..........I'm still right on this part of baseball.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Give me some evidence that his guys 'play harder' than any other group of starters - they damn sure don't do it at the dish, on the field or on the bases.
He just has good pitchers. He's not some master motivator.
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I agree the evidence is not overwhelming. The baserunning is a WTF is going on out there issue. Wong not running last night was bad, But I don't see Wong as a problem or lacks hustle. It was a brain fart.
- All the come from behind wins.
- The not laying down when we are beat by a large margin.
- Scoring runs in the late innings when beaten
- We have not played down to the level of lesser teams.
- We have not looked flabbergasted against a pitcher for the first time
It's 162 games. I don't have an issue with Yadi not running out a DP, easy ground ball, He catches more innings than anyone else, hes caught 11Kinnings for us. He obviously still plays the game with pride and passion. The HOF is filled with great players that have taken AB's off. Didn't go hard after a ball.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Says a fan of a team that bludgeoned its way to a WS in 2011 and put together two more pennants on the backs of its offense. The 2013 Red Sox did nothing but hit their way to the championship over the NL's elite offense in STL; both of those teams hit their way to the World Series. The Giants had Bumgarner and crap crap and crap as starters. Prior Giants teams all had above average offenses backing guys like Ryan Vogelsong or Barry Zito.
Teams aren't winning championships 2-1 anymore.
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In 2006 Anthony Reyes, Anthony ****ing Reyes pitching out of his mind to win game 1. Carp pitched 8 innings of 3 hit 0 earned run baseball. Jeff Weaver gave us 8 inninngs of 1 earned run pitching to clinch.
2011..... Carp was amazing in 3 games. 1st game 0 earned runs 8 innings. 2nd game 7 innings 2 earned runs. Game 3 6 innings 2 earned runs. Garcia pitched 7 innings with 0 earned runs. Holland 2 hit us. Games 3&6 were offensive blowouts.
I could go on and on. Pitching is the most consistent path to winning playoff and World Series games.