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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
The subject isn't "over".
Teams luck into HOF QB's more often than not and more teams have chased 1st round QB's and failed than did those that succeeded.
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Well if "luck" is the criteria then the Chiefs are triply ****ed for eternity, as their luck has proven itself to be pure shit.
It would be in their best interest to start looking in round 2-up and begin taking some shots w/o going full-Browntard.
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Your idea of a "Franchise QB" is skewed.
A Franchise QB is a guy that leads a team to successive winning seasons and wins in the playoffs.
QB's that do more than that, like win multiple seasons and Super Bowls, are Hall of Fame QB's.
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This needs refinement.
A franchise QB is a QB who can consistently put a team on his back and carry/lead them through injuries, roster gaps, bad drafts, and a myriad of other shortcomings to a winning( by CP Lil' Chiefy standards ), above .500 season and playoff opportunities. If the supporting cast is NOT a disaster and is put together to form a well-balanced team, this QB looks like a stud and makes it all look easy.
(Phillip Rivers fits this criteria)
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Hall of Fame QB can accomplish all of the above AND lead his team to Super Bowls. Even if they don't win the SB, the fact that he got that mess there is a testament to his belonging in the hall.
(Dan Marino fits this criteria)
Short pass, long pass, power run, screen run, long bomb, dink & dunk; style of offense and specialties of the QB's individual game/style don't apply.
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks
Developed for years before starting... on a team with established scheme, Pro Bowl WRs, back to back 1,000 yard RB.
Only SB he ever accomplished? had the 2nd best defense in the League.
Poor Aaron... what a trooper to develop well with so little.
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Alex has been given everything under God that a "franchise" QB should need to accomplish the task of winning championships. Oddly enough, his personal game is getting worse as his time in Reid's system increases.
I do not believe that is the desired result. Do you?
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Originally Posted by GoChargers
If Smith was a franchise quarterback, he would have never been replaced by the likes of J.T. O'Sullivan, Shaun Hill, and Troy Smith in his prime. A franchise quarterback is the rock that the entire franchise depends on year in, year out. A quarterback who gets benched for journeymen on a regular basis is not that.
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This is a correct assessment.
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Originally Posted by stevieray
....still waiting.
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Stop talking to yourself.
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks
Sure would be a lot easier an effort if Justin Houston could.. oh, I dunno.. show up and be effective?
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It sure would. Aren't we fortunate to have a Franchise QB who can overcome such an obstacle?
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Originally Posted by splatbass
And Rivers can feel great about that while he's sitting at home watching Alex Smith in the playoffs.
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Rivers can feel great about his ability to make chicken salad every year, especially with how shitty that franchise has been assembled year-in and year-out since Ladanian left the beach.