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Old 12-16-2017, 02:57 PM   #1843
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Possibly. The idea of who or what they might be interests me, but it's not critically important, imo. That would have been a pretty deep way (for Star Wars, anyway) to show that the subject is a nothingburger.
Here's the problem with this movie and the way it has structured the universe: it's a nihilistic exercise.

The plot was in many ways an elaborate troll job--Who are Rey's parents? Doesn't matter. What was Snoke's background? Doesn't matter. Who is the guy with the flower on his lapel? Doesn't matter.

In moderation, that is fine, but when it's done over and over again, it's thematic trolling.

If the Force continually brings balance and all of the characters die in some interaction related to its balancing, then their actions are meaningless in light of the future plot developments, because they are nothing but pawns.

If Anakin Skywalker exists to bring balance to the Force, and in the process both contributes to the creation and destruction of a galactic empire, that arc has meaning. If things immediately go to shit afterwards and the First Order replaces the Empire and continues doing Empire things, then his actions accomplish nothing.

If Luke pushes Vader back to the light and brings him redemption, then his actions have value. If immediately thereafter the empire that he destroys returns with different branding, and he lives his remaining time as an exile, his original actions accomplished nothing.

The challenge these writers were presented with was to grow the universe and present new, compelling stories. Good writers can accomplish that without sacrificing the meaning of the preceding stories in the process. Bad writers can't.
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