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Old 01-13-2018, 08:53 AM   #3366
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I agree with everything but your last paragraph. The ****ing failure of TLJ has nothing to do with politics.
I've watched the same exact thing happen in the comics. LITERALLY destroying the past so it's not there to posit an argument to the bold new future. I know you don't care about comics I'm just pointing out the same strategy used there. And it wasn't just a trial balloon or finger in the air to test how the wind's blowing - they took a loss FOR YEARS trying to push it.

And I'm not going to rehash my opinions on the politics but take my previous posts and combine them with the fact this film pissed all over the previous film.

TLJ basically said "**** what the previous creators or those that have to follow me think we're doing this and I don't care what problems it creates after this."

If the politics and dismissal of what was built in the previous film wasn't enough TLJ isn't even consistent with its message. Poe goes on a suicide run and is chastised for costing other lives just so he can be a hero. Early in the film I was impressed and thought "Wow. Pointing out the flaws in this trope makes sense."

Then Purple-haired-feminist does the exact same thing. Costs lives and then goes on a suicide run to be the hero. After that Asian Shrek does the exact same thing for an even MORE selfish reason - she loves Fin.

Later on this movie again earned points by having Ray say that the force is basically being able to move/float rocks. I did laugh. Only to have them ruin the point of that exchange later by Ray's most impressive moment in the film being - floating rocks.

**** this movie.

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It's just a ****ING AWFUL MOVIE that has NO ****ING consistency with Star Wars mythology, and on top of that it takes a big fat, steaming, shit on the beloved Original Trilogy. Then on top of that, it wiped out the promise TFA had by hand-waving shit.
All this is 100% spot on.

I'm not going to preach what anyone else should do but I'm out here. If they make a Kenobi film I'll see what the reaction is and if it's mostly positive I'll watch it on Netflix/Amazon...
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