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Old 11-10-2003, 01:27 PM   #484
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First of all, the stats are being misused. I could say that my workplace is fair because half of the people are minorities, but if I only work with 5 people that's not saying a whole helluva lot.
Why is that not saying a whole lot? Blacks are being overly represented. Or, to take the glass is half empty approach that you do, white are desperately UNDER represented. According to your argument affirmitive action should be what, 50 blacks, THEN 15% black thereafter? No one profession will ever be truly equally representitive of all social groups, because different social groups are attracted to different type of employment.

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Second, no one is stopping a white guy from playing FB or BB. If they're good enough, they get a job. Owners and collegiate ADs, on the other hand, are keeping competent, worthy minorities from coaching jobs. Not because they are necessarily racist, but because there's a "good 'ol boy network" going on. How else does Dennis Erickson get another job in the NFL when he sucked total ass the first time around? How the ****ing hell does Schottenheimer still have a job? Why did Detroit make up their minds before even interviewing anyone else? Of course, I'm sure you'll say I've been brainwashed by the media, or that I'm PC, or however else you want to justify it.
Why does Dungy still have a job? A head coach's job is to win championships, his playoff record is dismal. Why does Herman Edwards still have a job? His Jets are sucking ass and he's never proven anything. Not every coach is Bill Parcels just waiting for an opportunity. You have no proof or evidence to support your claim unless you have documentation from some coaching search saying:

"Well, we found this great black coach, but I think we'll hire this white loser instead. Hell, it's not like I want to keep my job."

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Third, I agree that Affirmative Action doesn't work. Read my post a few pages ago and you'd have seen that.
You don't believe in affirmative action, but half of the employees in a small company being black isn't enough?

You're crying and whining about representation, but you don't apply it equally. If you want the NFL head coaching positions to not be racist, then we need to break it down:

16 men, 16 women.
5 blacks, 10 hispanics, 2 asians, and 15 whites. Of course we'll be under-representing American Indians, Middle Eastern-Americans, etc. Quite a quandry, huh?
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