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Originally Posted by beer me
I couldn't care less who you and Mark like and who you don't.... but to say all of the things you two say is a matter of opinion...which is very different from actual truth. Everyone is welcomed to their opinion, that doesn't make their opinion true.
To say Kiss is a talentless band is evidence that you've never actually listened to much of their music. I'm not talking about the "hits." I'm talking about the whole body of work. Calling them talentless may be your opinion....but it's certainly not true.
Kiss was hardly "to blame" for the hair band craze. That's just a reeruned stereotypical comment from someone who admits to not liking that type of music and I'm sure therefor based that comment on nothing more than linking one to another because it was convenient.
The hair band thing actually started on the Sunset Strip where the "new breed" of rock bands were popping up. Bon Jovi's "Slippery When Wet" album and specifically the song "You Give Love A Bad Name," along with Quiet Riot's "Cum On Feel The Noise" were the first songs to cross over from the clubs to the video shows and pop charts. This was all born out of the irreverent and decadent attitude coming out of LA and the Sunset Strip area specifically. KISS was doing a very different brand of music from these bands and doing it in New York. So to call KISS the cause of the hair band craze is just ignorant.
That's the dumbest thing about these musical arguements...opinion is way more important than actually knowing anything.
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Dude ... are you the son of Gene Simmons or something?
My god ... get a freaking grip.
For the record, I have listend to their music ... a lot of it. Had Violator, Hotter than Hell and Dressed to Kill on vinyl, and drove to school for two years with a guy who played nothing but Kiss, so I heard it every day for at least an hour for two years.
Ask anyone who's played music about Kiss' chord structure and diversity of sound, and they'll actually agree with both me and Cosmic -- there just isn't a lot there.
And to say that Kiss had nothing to do with the hair band phase is being disingenuous.
Don't get me wrong -- I don't think you're an idiot for listening to them or anything, and I've met plenty of people who think they're the shit.
I'm just not one of them.
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