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Originally Posted by KUalum
I am a bit curious. I don't understand exactly what it is that's "infiltrating". Do the gay people you know (if you know any) do things differently from everyone else? - Of course sex in the privacy of ones home is excluded. Don't gay people go to work, buy homes and cars, pay taxes etc. I just want to understand what identifies this "lifestyle" that is being force fed upon everyone.
As far as rights - yeah I think you are a bit off base there. The only right that gay people have that heterosexuals do not is the right to have their violent attackers also charged with a hate crime. That's not much of a right in my opinion.
What rights do they not have. Well they can not get married. If they are hospitalized and do not have the correct paperwork they can be denied access to a partner of countless years (because they can not be married). When they die (hopefully not unexpectedly) they hope to have enough protection in wills and other legal documents that they only have to pay excessive taxes on all that one partner leaves to the other. Oh and they can still be fired in many states just because they are gay. I think those example alone are enough to show that gays have significantly less rights than the average Joe.
As far as being in the Church if the church does not want them there they will not be there.
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Like I said it is a church problem.
Do I know any gay people? Hell I have probably hired more gay people than anybody else here at chiefsplanet including the gays. 18 years in the health club industry will do that. Living in California? Come on.
Infiltrating. If you got voted into the position to act in the best interest of the church knowing you were going to pull this that would be the case. A lot of people donate serious money so the church can do good things for people. If she knew her position and didn't let people know that before voting her in on an issue that big it is deception and infiltration. It's not like this is anything new.
My point was hate crime. There are also insurance issues on both sides but that is a whole subject unto itself. I believe they should have the same rights as everyone. I believe marriage should be made a union but a union should not necessarily be considered a marriage if that makes any sense.
Hamas and people like him are the essence of the problem IMO. There is a big difference between tolerance and acceptance. Tolerance is a just a word he uses as a dagger to go after others when in reality he has no more tolerance than anyone he criticizes. It's a real groovy word to use when it fits your agenda. Denise was the master of that.