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I dunno... the Browns sucked from 81 to 85 (.500 that season), then they had 3 good seasons. Marty leaves, they win 9 games and suck again.
Redskins were 8-8 when Marty took them over, took them to 8-8 the next year and then Spurrier took over and they continued to suck until 'minimal' success last season.
Whole lotta nothin' with this thread, IMO.
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