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Originally Posted by Cochise
The problem here is that people who never saw this guy play or maybe never even heard of the guy are evaluating him based on what they looked up on profootballreference.com.
The TE has not always been about catching passes. It's subjective. It's like, how would you argue one offensive lineman over another if both were from the 60s or 70s? If you were born in the 70s or later, then you couldn't pretend to because there are no stats to look up. It's subjective.
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The thing is, I was an NFL fan back then. I remember hundereds of players from the '70s. Charlie Sanders, yes, I remember him, but not as a dominant player. At all. Jackie Smith, I remember as being a better TE. I remember thinking, "How could such a good TE drop such an easy pass" (answer, he was washed up for three year prior to dropping the big one).
One reporter today said he revolutionized the TE position. Do a Google search on "Charlie Sanders" and "revolutionized". 59 hits. Do the same search for Kellen Winslow and you get 499. Should a player get to the HOF by being 1/10 the influence of another HOFer?
What I think. He's worked in the Lion's organization ever since retiring. He's a good citizen. Good for him. Does that make him a HOFer? I think the Lions launched a huge PR campaign with the Old Timer's committee and got him the nomination. The voters seem to rubber stamp those guys the last few years. It is a travesty and cheapens the whole HOF.
You can't bullshit in the information age.