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Old 01-28-2008, 05:01 PM   #324
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Okay, NOW I get it.
Apparently you don't. Pity, I can't spell it out any more plainly for you. It must be the same problem I have understanding a mind-set that's "too busy" to take personal responsibility for the food you eat, places you go, etc. Two very different world-views that are simply incompatible.
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You'd prefer NO regulation of ANY kind. NONE.
I didn't say that, or even allude to it. In a perfect world, maybe. This isn't. As such, I realistically move to acceptance of a MINIMUM of regulation. I'll take this as another of your "I can't specifically address the points you made, so I'll just dismiss it by vastly exaggerating what you said" posts. That's OK. You've proved several times in this thread that's "how you roll".
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As if EVERYONE in America were kind, caring, smart individuals who took personal responsibility for their actions.
It's be nice, but there's a reason the word "Utopia" was chosen for the "perfect place".
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As if EVERY corporation in America was filled with kind, caring, smart executives whose driving passions were to think of the consumer first and foremost and profits second.
Already addressed previously. See my previous comments about the necessity of an independent "review" as Private industry (or the FDA itself for that matter) may not be sufficently independent to perform that role. Within our current system, I'd rather see a double-check system with the FDA and an independent private group.
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Well Dude, unfortunately, we don't live in a country like that. Whatsoever.
As you said, no shit, Sherlock. IMO, largely because of folks who encourage a mindset of abdicating personal responsibility because they don't have the time, or are too lazy.
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But let me know if you find one. I'd be up for moving there.
If I found one, why would I fu*k it up by inviting a busybody like you? You'd just come in and start pushing for the same crap. In a couple of generations, it'd be just like here with people whining about how they are too busy and it's too hard to take responsibility for themselves.

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I can't speak for him but I believe that what Mr. Havelock has been advocating is little to no government regulation. Let the public make their own choices with their dollars, regardless of the consequences and keep the government out of private business.
Huh. Maybe you are beginning to understand. It's not an "absolute" by any means, but in my case a decent guiding ideal. In short, a minimum of regulation, but not necessarily "none".
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That sounds great to me.
Really? Because it's what you've been arguing against for almost 10 pages. That's a damn odd way of showing how "great" you think something is, IMO.
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Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of people in this nation aren't responsible and personal responsibility has gone the way of the Wholly Mammoth.
So by all means, lets continue to feed that sickness.
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