Originally Posted by penchief
Yes. It was a dictatorship and political murders were occurring. But that was a blip on the screen compared to the level of death and destruction that we brought to those people. Being responsible for the deaths of more people than Saddam and the destruction of a society is not exactly a glowing endorsement. And it certainly doesn't condone the killing of innocent people by our own hand.
1. Iraqis were 4x
likely to be killed by their own government
than by enemy combatants after the March 2003 invasion;
2. Figures by reliable organizations place the total civilian death count since 2003 at about 96,000. What they don't tell you is that enemy combatants are rolled into that number
. So are Iraqis killed by enemy combatants. The enemy in Iraq (Al Qaeda, Mahdi Army, 1920 Brigades, Badr Brigades, Ansar al Islam, etc...) do not wear uniforms and are considered "civilian deaths" by statiticians tracking the body count in OIF
3. The greatest killer of Iraqi civilians are other Iraqis
. Insurgency operations are focused on the perceived collaborators (Iraqis fighting with us against the insurgents) and not the perceived 'occupier'. Therefore suicide bombers target Iraqi police, Iraqi Army, and Iraqi civilians
. The overwhelming preponderance of Iraqi civilians killed are killed by other Iraqis
4. The strategy of AQ is to foment sectarian strife between Shia and Sunni. This is why AQ bombed the Golden Dome Mosque (Shiite) in Samarra in 2006. The Shiite response was to retaliate against Sunnis by deploying 'death squads'. This strategy was designed to foment Sunni regional intervention on behalf of Iraqi Sunnis. General Petraeus cut its head off and stuck it on a pole called "The Surge" (actually counterinsurgency).
5. The first principle of counterinsurgency (Field Manual 3-24) is PROTECT THE POPULATION
. So how does that fit your pet liberal, anti-US theory?
6. The actual count of Iraqi noncombatant civilians killed by Coalition Forces is inconsequential.