Thread: U.S. Issues B.O. is the Manchurian Candidate
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:47 PM   #97
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Says who? The guy who doesn't understand when no-bid contracts are superior to competitive bidding and the guy who thinks he was lied into war? Sorry Frankie, you've got no credibility on these topics so your hand-waving just isn't enough.
Pat, please!... In working for the state of Iowa I have worked a lot in contracting out our work. Yes, the scale is different, but a no bid contract is a no bid contract. Not giving equal chance to competing contractors is NOT ALLOWED. That's the practice here at the State Government and there is no reason it can be allowed by the big Gov. Unless you have lawyers rewriting and re-interpreting laws.[/quote]

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Donger may have said "western democracy" in this thread, but I don't think there was much confusion in the Bush administration on this point. They recognized that the Iraqis would have to find their own path toward a freedom-respecting form of self-government. The Bush administration wanted to build as many democratic institutions as possible to help them get started, but no one expected Iraq to be a perfect reflection of the western model.
Donger didn't say it. I did. But the point is still that pushing a "democracy" on a country that has seen nothing but corrupt despots and/or leaders in the pockets of Super Powers is impossible as a short-time goal and via military take over is impossible. The Bush administration was at best (1) pathetically naive and woefully inept, in terms of foreign policy, or at worst (2) corrupt and after war profiting. Given the characters involved, I'll take (2) for one hundred.
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