Originally Posted by BigRedChief
of couse not. my orginal point is that we can't "win" this war, even if we put 100K americans in harms way on the ground. I'm not in favor of just leaving the area or the country totally. We just need a new strategy to keep Al-Quaeda from having a safe haven and going after and killing Al-Quaeda. Which is the only "win" we should concern ourselfs with.
Get rid of the military bases on their land but keep our ships nearby. Threaten them with our return ( such as the original Afghan strike) should another attack be planned or occur. This removes a major complaint of the people there, prevents needless bombing of civilians while incentiving ostracizing and going after AQ. Use this carrot along with Marques & Reprisals, more human intel and special forces. Conventional warfare is too in the people's face, makes them suffer whether they have anything to do with 9/11 and helps to win the peace ( because they don't like permanent military installations on their land.)
Absolutely, NO MORE going after Israel's terrorists supporters like Iran directly with our military. We're not in this to secure Israel directly ( as Iraq was) with our own soldiers dying—only indirectly. This just incentives AQ and serves to recruit more to their cause. You have to not only win the war but win the peace. Something Israel herself has failed to do because she only won the conventional war, which led to the rise in terrorism for her instead as a replacement.
Lastly, America needs to be a more honest broker in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. We must pressure Israel to end the settlements for one. We must distance the extremists on both sides of the conflict ( that means the Likudnicks, Israel's version of our NeoCons). This means the Evangelical Dispensationalist wing in America (RR) that is aligned with the NeoCons because they see Israel, the state, as the messiah , desire Armageddon to convert and perfect Jews. ( most of whom are atheist or agnostic today) and have historical hatred of anything Muslim. In short, they can't be objective.
Bill Belichick learned to film signals of opponents from the former Chiefs, and Charger's coach Schottenheimer. Others like Edwards, Johnson and Cowher did too. They learned from the CHEATS and CHEATERS who still couldn't win.