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Old 09-15-2009, 10:24 AM   #64
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Get rid of the military bases on their land but keep our ships nearby. Threaten them with our return ( such as the original Afghan strike) should another attack be planned or occur. This removes a major complaint of the people there, prevents needless bombing of civilians while incentiving ostracizing and going after AQ. Use this carrot along with Marques & Reprisals, more human intel and special forces. Conventional warfare is too in the people's face, makes them suffer whether they have anything to do with 9/11 and helps to win the peace ( because they don't like permanent military installations on their land.)

Absolutely, NO MORE going after Israel's terrorists supporters like Iran directly with our military. We're not in this to secure Israel directly ( as Iraq was) with our own soldiers dying—only indirectly. This just incentives AQ and serves to recruit more to their cause. You have to not only win the war but win the peace. Something Israel herself has failed to do because she only won the conventional war, which led to the rise in terrorism for her instead as a replacement.

Lastly, America needs to be a more honest broker in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. We must pressure Israel to end the settlements for one. We must distance the extremists on both sides of the conflict ( that means the Likudnicks, Israel's version of our NeoCons). This means the Evangelical Dispensationalist wing in America (RR) that is aligned with the NeoCons because they see Israel, the state, as the messiah , desire Armageddon to convert and perfect Jews. ( most of whom are atheist or agnostic today) and have historical hatred of anything Muslim. In short, they can't be objective.
Israel doesn't need our protection. It just needs access to our arms and the money to buy them. Guarnatee you that Israel has suitcase nukes in a lot of major Arab cities and probaly some western ones to threaten with in case they are overun someday. And if they are going down as a state and can gaurantee you there will be mushroom clouds in every Arab state.

Was it the muslim world that sprung forth 9/11 and killed americans or Israel. And you are delussional if you thnk Arabs will drop their anti-Americanism if we just drop support for Israel.
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I believe Hitler hated Jews and had a lot of them killed. I dont believe it was anywhere close to 6 million though. I'm not an anti-semite; I just think that number has been severely inflated and there is a lot of evidence that supports this belief.
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